Or, really, he can't be expected to change ... period. So, ya know, stop putting pressure on BestPopeEver!

It's still possible for him to be the best Pope yet, and still be horribly regressive on a number of topics.

Somehow being the best of the worst seems less than impressive.

Cue the defenders....

I believe that is the conditioned response from the pope fan club around here.

How do people follow this mindless goof?

Does that mean the leadership is incomplete?

you don't want to be going and using factual comments to point out obvious inconsistencies....you might be considered some sort of anti-religious bigot or something....

They've got all those nuns on busses that they can only ignore at their peril to assume the separate but equal female leadership roles in the RCC.

Oh...wait..

What, they're already whole/complete?
They choose to go against the natural order of things?

And they wonder why we mock their ignorance, bigotry and stupidity.

the subjugation of women, against machismo!

And Horror of Horrors! The Pope thinks marriage is a good thing!

It would have been so disappointing otherwise.

You do understand that he is re-affirming the RCC's opposition to LGBT equality, specifically to the legalization of same sex marriage. That is not a question. That is a statement of fact.

The question is why are you defending this?

As far as the subjugation of women is concerned, any institution that opposes access to birth control is an institution that is promoting the subjugation of women. But you do understand that too. So again, why are you defending this misogynistic crap?

and ONLY between a man and woman is a good thing!

Do you feel like you need to take a hot shower after defending that homophobic bigot?

sexism, and the subjugation of women while pretending to do the opposite. Sounds like the Republican candidates to me.

http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/audiences/2015/documents/papa-francesco_20150422_udienza-generale.html

Based on this thread, it makes a good Rorschach test.

like how some see it as a support of women, and miss that he's saying, in effect, that gay marrige is causing men to beat their wives.

Sin introduces all that into god's creation of the covenant between men and women.



Breakdown in marriage hurts kids, so gay marriage is bad for kids.

I'm taking this in context with everything he has said about marriage, which has nothing to do with divorce or the like, and everything to do with gay marriage being against god's will.

It's plain as day to anyone.

To acknowledge the truth of the matter is just too uncomfortable.

One you always refuse to answer, are you beliefs so fragile that you can't stand any questioning of them that you must viciously attack anyone who makes you think?

A celibate would have no clue about that, would he?