It makes perfect sense for each religion to have a different philosophy and stance when it comes to the quest for knowledge about the universe.

But on the other side, I think nothing will be gained by trying to use religion to get people interested in exploration:
Why would anybody join a quest for knowledge about the universe when they already have an explanation about the universe?
What could this search for knowledge possibly reveal about the grand schemes of the universe that wasn't already covered in the religious explanation of the universe?
What is the selling-point?

there is a great deal of variation between how different religious groups approach science, but there is also a positive correlation with how the pastor approaches the subject.

There are lots of selling points and many believers do not hold the position that their religion fully explains the universe.

But, at a very basic level, evangelism could be the selling point, just as it was for exploration of this planet.

There is a great book about the first trip by humans to a known inhabited planet. It's call the Sparrow. Things don't go well for them either.

Since we don't know, all we can do is imagine.

Then at least the fools being parted from their money will be, unwittingly, actually contributing to science.

Sounds like a win/win! I vote "yes".

Julie

Both NDT and Bill Nye have made the argument that we have to find a way to make the case for science that doesn't completely undermine their beliefs. I think it can be done.

Worked out well for other eras of exploration, if in fact the goal was genocide.

Or read, for that matter.

While i do stuff. I mean i can, but it'll just sit there not doing anything.

...... Jeremy Irons reading "Lolita" while driving to Charlotte with a designer to get some stuff we couldn't pick up locally....laughing our asses off the whole way!

Even better than high tempo or loud electronicA/trance/dubstep.

The comedy channels on spotify and pandora are pretty great too.

Meanwhile, my religion teaches me that human beings should be my first concern

I find no religious arguments for something like as limited as space exploration. I find religious arguments for the importance of science, as a process that dignifies, empowers, and instructs humanity. Space exploration is a great idea, but our time and resources are finite, so while I support some space exploration, I think other forms of scientific inquiry may often be more important

Could end every last living cell on the planet.

Still a bad return on investment?

Detection, mitigation, destruction of objects, and redundant dispersal of the species. You don't solve the problem of shit hitting earth without full exploration of the solar system.

it currently gets about 1/4 of 1% of NASA's budget; and NASA may not think it needs more funding

Report says scientists lack funds to meet Congressional goal for finding smaller "near-Earth asteroids"
By Robin Lloyd | January 22, 2010
... the $4 million in annual funding that several major NEO detection programs receive is nowhere near enough to meet a 2020 deadline set by Congress in 2005 for scientists to find 90 percent of near-Earth objects greater than 140-meters in diameter—space rocks of this size are likely to cause regional, rather than global, damage, though global damage is still possible. The mandate has yet to receive any funding. One of these regional-threat objects strikes Earth on average every 30,000 years ...

NASA to Congress: don’t “pour money” into NEO programs
By Jeff Foust
2013 March 20 at 7:19 am ET
... at a hearing Tuesday on the issue by the House Science Committee, NASA administrator Charles Bolden seemed to downplay the threat and ask that additional money not be allocated to NEO programs—at least not at the expense of other NASA programs. “We could come out of this hearing and decide that we really want to pour money into NEO detection and characterization, and that would not be the right thing to do,” Bolden said ... Bolden’s rationale was that NEO impacts large enough to pose a threat were rare events. “The probability of any sizable NEO impacting Earth any time in the next 100 years is extremely remote” ... Bolden also admitted that current funding provided to NASA for its NEO work ($20.5 million in FY2012, up from just $4 million a few years earlier) was not sufficient to achieve the goal in NASA’s 2005 authorization act to discover 90 percent of the NEOs at least 140 meters in diameter by 2020 ...

White House Proposes $18.5 Billion Budget For NASA In 2016
February 2, 2015
Curtiss Thompson
... Under the proposed budget, NASA’s Near Earth Object Program, which focuses on finding and tracking potentially hazardous asteroids and comets, would receive $50 million in 2016, an increase of $10 million. This comes after the agency’s NEO Program saw its budget doubled following the Chelyabinsk meteor that exploded over Russia in 2013 injuring more than 1,000 people on the ground ...

But that doesn't mean we should abandon those things that don't make the cut right now.

Exploration is important, imo. We may need another planet in the not so distant future, as it appears we may have ruined this one.

Your usual posting habits include spamming links on the subject, but here you just posted a woefully uninformed opinion and left it at that.

Just plug in "benefits of space exploration" into google and go off the e races like you usually do.

Or do you mean I don't really think that?

You object to the idea "human beings should be my first concern"?
Or you feel that I'm misrepresenting my religious views when I say that's what my religion teaches?

It's amusimg to me how many here when called out list everything but what they were called out for, including stuff that wasn't even in their post.

Not only are you wrong, but you used a right wing talking point. One they have been using to try and get rid of NASA.

Ugh!

They'll just bring in a bunch of stupid crap that no one needs to care about...but we'll "have to".

I guess we should leave out all groups that you don't ally yourself with, yes? They'll just bring up stupid crap that no one (and by no one, I think you mean you) needs to care about.

Anything at all.

But other than that...

We'd have to pray before opening the solar panels.....

We'd have to exclude some acts or other on some days.....

Some male astronauts couldn't sit next to a female astronaut.....

We'd have to not ask certain questions about what we were discovering because they are not for us to know or something...

Someone would have to design the space helmets and suits so someone can wear a head scarf or turban or shawl or magic underwear or something under it....


etc etc

"Christ on a cracker! We're decompressing!!!!"

"Well, it was time to release a dove into outer space....praise god!"

With tech priests lighting incense and chanting for hours before pressing the "on"button.

perceptions or experiences.

I'd almost say it's poe-like, if I thought for a second that you are genuinely expressing what you believe to be true.

That's cool. I suspect you won't be a part of the program, so they can probably go ahead without disturbing your sensibilities in any way whatsoever.

I suppose you're like your husband where people post you links to all this stuff and you just say "i don't see any links" at leat you haven't compared gay marrige to beastality.

....are based on religion.

Religious people fervently following absurd and time consuming tho' ridiculous and sometime dangerous rituals and restrictions is only in my mind????



Alrighty then!

until women are evicted from seats next to them or anything.

"poe-like" yes indeed one cannot successfully mock religion as whatever mockery one comes up with, somebody is actually doing that seriously. I don't think you know what that phrase actually means. Your use up above supports the argument you are opposing.

Get them all on board a huge spaceship and tell them they are being sent to heaven. Who wouldn't want to go?

but it would serve the purpose of eliminating them. That's your intent, right?

I also suspect not many would. However, if they did, I'd consider it a bonus.

would go the way of the dinosaurs, then?

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Why not invoke dead ancestors while doing scientific experiments:
blends the wealth of experience of two different 'sources of wisdom'

Then we should explore the role of religion in quantum mechanics.

So many diverse new interactions woefully unexplored up to now.

One wonders why..