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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 09:09 AM Jul 2015

Catholic church denies that preventing transgender man from being a Godparent is 'discrimination'

http://www.sdgln.com/news/2015/07/29/catholic-church-denies-preventing-transgender-man-being-godparent-discrimination

Alex Salinas is 21 years old. He was assigned female at birth, but is now living as his authentic self as a man. He is a "firm believer" and wants to be a godparent at his nephew's baptism but the diocese of Cadiz and Ceuta is standing in his way. According to them, he is not a "suitable" person because of the life he leads, a life not "congruent with faith.”

However, they do not find their argument to be discriminatory.The diocese says that. in responding to the petition they received from Salinas to be a godparent at the baptism, the priest maintained a "cordial conversation" with him, indicating that he must fulfill the requisites stated in the Code of Canon Law which requires that any godfather or godmother at a baptism "be Catholic, be confirmed, have received the holy sacrament of the Eucharist and, at the same time, live a life congruent with faith and the mission they are assuming."

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"To the church, I am still a woman, even though my documents of identification have changed," explained Alex Salinas, who wants the diocese to reconsider their decision, which he took "as a kick in the stomach" because he is a "firm believer."

Salinas, who since February of last year has had the I.D. of a man and is on a waiting list for a gender confirmation surgery, does not understand the Church's refusal to let him be a godparent to his sister's son.


See the way it works is, discrimination with a smile isn't really discrimination!
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Catholic church denies that preventing transgender man from being a Godparent is 'discrimination' (Original Post) trotsky Jul 2015 OP
Of course it isn't bigotry because words and the new pope is great! Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #1
if you want separation of church and state HFRN Jul 2015 #2
Hey the RCC can be as bigoted as it wants to be. trotsky Jul 2015 #3
It's a nice forum full of liberals we have here, isn't it? Act_of_Reparation Jul 2015 #4
Well, not all of the rest of us skepticscott Jul 2015 #6
Doesn't stop the rest of us pointing out, mr blur Jul 2015 #7
Except the church receives government assistance Lordquinton Aug 2015 #11
'We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong.' AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #5
religion TRUMPS all Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #8
It's not really bigotry if it's based on religious beliefs. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #9
Cardinals and Popes have fee-fees too! Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #13
That is such a familiar argument Lordquinton Aug 2015 #10
The real problem is that there exists an atheist that said something bad. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #12
It is discrimination, but it is not illegal Marrah_G Aug 2015 #14
 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
2. if you want separation of church and state
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 09:34 AM
Jul 2015

meaning, you don't want church making decisions in roles of state, then it has to go both ways - godparent is a church role

make an exception, set a precedent

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
3. Hey the RCC can be as bigoted as it wants to be.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 09:37 AM
Jul 2015

Doesn't mean the rest of us can't express our disapproval and disgust.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
6. Well, not all of the rest of us
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:10 AM
Jul 2015

Some here think that if it doesn't affect us directly, we should just shut the fuck up and not care.

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
7. Doesn't stop the rest of us pointing out,
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 12:07 PM
Jul 2015

that a fundamentally ignorant and bigoted group continues, proudly, to be ignorant and bigoted, does it?

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
11. Except the church receives government assistance
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 02:45 AM
Aug 2015

Therefore they are subject to things like no discrimination and such. Or they should be.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
9. It's not really bigotry if it's based on religious beliefs.
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 10:53 PM
Jul 2015

No really, that's what I've read here.

From the folks who defend the defenders of "traditional" marriage from teh gays.

Because we know how much the RCC needs to be protected from its critics.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
14. It is discrimination, but it is not illegal
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 10:15 PM
Aug 2015

Anyone baptizing their child in the Catholic church should be aware of the bigoted laws of the Church.

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