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Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:21 PM Aug 2015

When Rationalists Reinvent Religion

August 12, 2015
by Adam Lee

I enjoyed this story by Dylan Matthews on Vox about effective altruism, an idea I’m all in favor of and wanted to say more about.

EA is the philosophy that we should use science, rather than warm fuzzy feelings or guesswork, to direct our charitable giving where it will do the most good. Compared to the enormous need in the world, the amount of money and energy available for charity is small to begin with, and too many of those scarce and precious dollars and volunteer hours have been squandered on feel-good projects that made no lasting difference. (Celebrity-run charities seem especially susceptible to this problem.) Meanwhile, humbler and cheaper interventions, like bed nets or deworming pills or iodine supplements – or even just giving money to the poor directly – can have far more of an impact, using the standard measure of DALYs.

So far, so good; there’s nothing here I’d argue with. As a universal utilitarian, I want to do the most good I can with the finite resources I have available. But effective altruism has a dark side, capably if unflatteringly showcased by the Vox article.

Specifically, many of EA’s most fervent advocates are wealthy, white, male, tech-obsessed futurists, and that shapes their view of what counts as a “pressing” problem. A large number of them argue that existential risk, or X-risk – extinction-level events for the human species, like meteor impact, alien invasion, or the emergence of evil artificial intelligence – ought to take precedence above all else. As Matthews’ article puts it:

The number of future humans who will never exist if humans go extinct is so great that reducing the risk of extinction by 0.00000000000000001 percent can be expected to save 100 billion more lives than, say, preventing the genocide of 1 billion people. That argues, in the judgment of Bostrom and others, for prioritizing efforts to prevent human extinction above other endeavors. This is what X-risk obsessives mean when they claim ending world poverty would be a “rounding error.”

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2015/08/when-rationalists-reinvent-religion/
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When Rationalists Reinvent Religion (Original Post) rug Aug 2015 OP
And the point is? HassleCat Aug 2015 #1
Feeling good about what you're doing is a pretty good indicator. Jim__ Aug 2015 #2
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
1. And the point is?
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:28 PM
Aug 2015

I see no discussion of rationalism, no discussion of religion, so why the title?

Jim__

(14,077 posts)
2. Feeling good about what you're doing is a pretty good indicator.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 05:00 PM
Aug 2015

Most humans are empathetic and helping people makes us feel good. Since this seems to be a selected trait, we should give it some weight. Far out scenarios that may have near infinite benefits, are unlikely to have been computed correctly. His comparison to Pascal's Wager is fitting.

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