Well isn't he refreshingly different...

Here it is 2015 and we're still being told to stay in the closet or face the violent consequences...

Thanks Trotsky

The Pope seems to think it's normal to punch someone if you feel you've been insulted. Given how victimized and insulted so many religious folk are these days I guess we should expect some form of violence...

He posts this:

Pope said expect violence....what has happened to people who speak out about disbelief historically? Violence of one form or another. Pope says "hey, that's the way it is"

The pope did say physical violence is "normal" if you " insult the faith of others". But you often accuse DUers of dishonesty rather than facing up to the realities of your sect. Par for the course for you.

What is bollocks, times two, is your equating this remark with the hacking death of human beings.

And, since you mention it, it's bollocks steeped in dishonesty.

that anyone has equated that with hacking someone to death. You are just making shit up to accuse people of dishonesty. Everyone here can read, you know. It's only your own guilty conscience over what Francis said that you're having an effect on.

You, in your self-righteousness and high-minded integrity, relate that to hacking someone to death.

It's not only dishonest bollocks, it's idiocy that cannot survive even a languid use of reason.

Don't you worry a bit about my conscience, muriel, check your own.

The subject was speech seen as insulting a religion, and he said there are limits to freedom of expression. He used the example of someone insulting his mother as something that would provoke violence, and said he brought that up as an example that there are 'normal' reactions of violence to provocation.

Yet again, you accuse a DUer of dishonesty by fantasizing about what has been said in this thread. You are consistently polluting the thread with bullshit.

As soon as one argument becomes untenable the apologist just shifts to a new argument, as if the prior failed effort never occurred.

Keep reading the thread, warren. I expect there will be some remarks about lack of integrity coming up.

I don't think loving his mother is a religious doctrine.

The bullshit in this thread comes from trotsky's remark in the OP.

It's interesting you and your cohorts - dishonestly - try to turn a serious incident involving a murder into a rather an opportunity to equate the Pope with encouraging it.

That is the bullshit and that is the dishonesty.

Francis said it about the Charlie Hebdo massacre. He made that comment in response to atheists getting murdered for insulting religion. Francis said that violent retaliation was normal in responce to an insult when Publisher(s) of atheist books hacked(shot) to death in Bangladesh(Paris).

This directly applies, to claim otherwise is "rank dishonesty."

Mr Nice_Smile Pope condoned violence against mockers of religion..

..just after the murders at Charlie Hebdo.


Forget about turning the other cheek, it was the right Christian comment to make.

Horrible violence in the name of religion had JUST occurred. The universal response should have been "murder is NEVER an acceptable response to being offended." But instead we had from this pope, as well as a surprisingly loud group of DUers, that somehow those who offend the religious beliefs of others should keep quiet, and that when people react violently, it should have been expected.