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onager

(9,356 posts)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:48 AM Dec 2015

Movie “Spotlight” opens, and a NYT columnist uses it to criticize religion’s privilege

WEIT, Jerry Coyne (Nov. 5, 2015)

I was quite heartened yesterday to see an established New York Times columnist, Frank Bruni, go after Catholicism—and faith in general. After all, the good gray Times isn’t known for criticizing religion: it’s the home of Ross Douthat, of Tanya Luhrmann, and various others who osculate the rump of faith.

The lesson the paper and its writers seem to have learned is that you make no enemies (even among atheists) by coddling faith, but criticizing it brings you ostracism and hatred. I can’t in fact remember ever seeing any NYT op-ed that goes after the unwarranted privileges, like tax breaks, that religion enjoys in the U.S.

But Bruni’s latest piece, “The Catholic Church’s sins are ours,” doesn’t pull any punches.

https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2015/11/05/movie-spotlight-opens-and-a-nyt-columnist-uses-it-to-criticizes-religions-privilege/
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Movie “Spotlight” opens, and a NYT columnist uses it to criticize religion’s privilege (Original Post) onager Dec 2015 OP
That was a great op-ed, here is an excerpt: beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #1
At last Yorktown Dec 2015 #8
Here's the last line of the Op-Ed, followed by a clarification by the NYT editorial staff: Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #2
That link is much better than Jerry Coyne's usual predictable words. rug Dec 2015 #3
The one problem i have with that line Lordquinton Dec 2015 #5
I need to see that one Lordquinton Dec 2015 #4
The same Boston story was covered... onager Dec 2015 #6
Well, if it has Ted Danson! Lordquinton Dec 2015 #7

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
1. That was a great op-ed, here is an excerpt:
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:40 AM
Dec 2015
“Spotlight” is admirably blunt on this point, suggesting that the Globe staff — which, in the end, did the definitive reporting on church leaders’ complicity in the abuse — long ignored an epidemic right before their eyes.

Why? For some of the same reasons that others did. Many journalists, parents, police officers and lawyers didn’t want to think ill of men of the cloth, or they weren’t eager to get on the bad side of the church, with its fearsome authority and supposed pipeline to God. (After the coverage of the Porter case, Cardinal Bernard Law of Boston announced, “We call down God’s power on the media, particularly the Globe.”)

“Spotlight” lays out the many ways in which deference to religion protected abusers and their abettors. At one point in the movie, a man who was molested as a boy tells a Globe reporter about a visit his mother got from the bishop, who was asking her not to press charges.

“What did your mother do?” the reporter asks.

“She put out freakin’ cookies,” the man says.

When the cookies finally went away, many Catholic leaders insisted that the church was being persecuted, and the crimes of priests exaggerated, by spiteful secularists.

But if anything, the church had been coddled, benefiting from the American way of giving religion a free pass and excusing religious institutions not just from taxes but from rules that apply to other organizations.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/04/opinion/the-catholic-churchs-sins-are-ours.html?ref=opinion&_r=0&referer=

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
8. At last
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 12:04 AM
Dec 2015

It's nice to read this:

But if anything, the church had been coddled, benefiting from the American way of giving religion a free pass


Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
2. Here's the last line of the Op-Ed, followed by a clarification by the NYT editorial staff:
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:35 AM
Dec 2015
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/04/opinion/the-catholic-churchs-sins-are-ours.html?ref=opinion

“If it takes a village to raise a child, it takes a village to abuse one,” says a character in “Spotlight.” Indeed it does: a village too cowed, and a village too credulous.
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Thomas L. Friedman is off today.


Good thing Tom Friedman was "off" (an accurate descriptor of his life, come to think of it), otherwise we might not have seen this.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
5. The one problem i have with that line
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 03:44 PM
Dec 2015

Is it gives people an excuse to displace the blame from where it belongs.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
4. I need to see that one
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 03:42 PM
Dec 2015

Glad it's being taken more seriously, not just swept under the carpet. And Mark Ruffalo is awesome.

onager

(9,356 posts)
6. The same Boston story was covered...
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 05:59 PM
Dec 2015

...in a 2005 TV movie, "Our Fathers." Very well done. With Ted Danson, Christopher Plummer, Brian Dennehy etc. Directed by Dan Curtis, who also did the epic "Winds of War" mini-series.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421108/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
7. Well, if it has Ted Danson!
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:08 PM
Dec 2015

The fact that it's still a shocking film even though it's not the first one on the topic speaks volumes about the power and influence of the organization.

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