OK, let's settle for this nativity scene:

Fairy tales usually are juvenile.

"Use a picture. It's worth a thousand words."




While the nativity story expresses nothing. An empty shell of a fairy tale.

Non belief is not a doctrine, it's just the avoidance of false doctrines.

You know, those Bible stories which you called "True, but didn't happen"


A bit like chamelions or tigrabbits: They exist, but not really.

That's so much worse than what religions do to atheists..

(if it were true that atheists bother to canvass door to door like theists, but they don't)

The law allows equal access, not targeted mockery. There are billboards for that.

Satire and mockery are also protected by First Amendment.

Greg is great at losing lawsuits

The Establishment Clause (which is quite distinct from the Free Speech Clause) is not violated if any religious group, including the irreligious, are allowed. It does not cover religious mockery (the Free Speech Clause does). This is an Establishment Clause issue, not a Free Speech Clause issue.

(interesting kindred spirit for you)

Others see it as a reminder that this is a secular country and there is something we should revere more than the Bible.

(not that I would make such a comparison)

There are all sorts of media to proclaim this is a secular country. Trying to squeeze this display into the Establishment Clause is not one of them.

Whenever and wherever this group proclaims it again, I hope they don't do it as stupidly.

is fine for you.

Religious privileged anyone?

Arbitrarily deeming something as "mocking" and then censoring on that basis just doesn't seem like firm legal ground to me. YMMV.

The only reason it was there was because religious displays were permitted. This is not one.

Neither does the government get to decide which viewpoints are worthy or not.

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People are free to do all sorts of stupid things on their own property.

I don't think the Nativity belongs in a Government bldg. Glad they put up an alternative. If one goes, they all should go.
What happened to the establishment clause?

that many fly flags. But I don't know if it's the same. What political agenda does a flag endorse?I know it's considered political speech, but it doesn't seem to say much, what? "We're American".

If you look, most of them have a flag tucked in one corner ans usually a denomination's flag in the other.







I couldn't fond a U.S. mosque (or a Kingdom Hall for that matter) but here's one from China.



I think it's a holdover from anti-communist statutes in the past that required the display of the American flag at gatherings above a certain size.

Got that right!

Such as Dubya, Ooops Perry, and now Abbot?

"offensive mockery"

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because saying we should celebrate our democratic liberty instead of a religious myth in a Government Building, is a terrible thing.

Is that intended to represent free thought?

that is only your interpretation.

Kneeling is your church's thing.

How many secularists consider kneeling to a legal document to be their thing?

to read it.

Again, your interpretation, not explicitly what you say.

I am surprised allegory is this difficult for you.

As you say, I'm familiar with the gesture.

your interpretation.

Filtered through your religious view.

I have no desire to start a google image bomb of artwork with people doing the same thing without the same connotation.

But I doubt it would be hard.

If you'd like to google, be my guest. Just don't do it on a tablet.

considering it, and not the bible is the law of the land is stupid to you.

That is how i see your post, as easy to interpret as finger paints as well.

I don't think I have ever compared the Bill of Rights to baby Jesus when arguing suppression under the Fourth or Fifth Amendments.

Your interpretation is incorrect, naturally, although I am glad to see you now acknowledge his gesture was an act of reverence and not bending down to read fine print.

And can accept no other interpretation, after all, if they did accept other viewpoints their whole belief structure would come toppling down.

"I prefer FANTASY OVER REALITY" Abbott could be heard screaming, as he wheeled himself away at high speed.

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