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moobu2

(4,822 posts) Sun Apr 22, 2012, 10:31 AM Apr 2012

Nuns feel shaken and insulted after the Vatican rapped them hard on the knuckles for not toeing the

Sisters of mercy, devotion — and dismay
In Philadelphia last week, a child sex-abuse trial involving Catholic clergy led to a bombshell — a bishop from West Virginia was accused of abuse.

In Kansas City, a Catholic bishop goes on trial in September, accused of failing to report suspected child abuse.

Last year church officials paid $144 million to settle abuse allegations and cover legal bills, and although many of the cases went back decades, church auditors have warned of "growing complacency" about protecting children today.

So who's in trouble with the Vatican?

Nuns.

You know, the thousands of women who took vows of poverty to work with the poor, the sick and disabled.

Why?

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lopez-nuns-20120422,0,7617042.column

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Nuns feel shaken and insulted after the Vatican rapped them hard on the knuckles for not toeing the (Original Post) moobu2 Apr 2012 OP

They Should Break off From the Church dballance Apr 2012 #1

Fish (and the Vatican) rots from the head down. nt DCKit Apr 2012 #2

I agree. I wonder if they are discussing such a revolt. cbayer Apr 2012 #4

Please amuse us skepticscott Apr 2012 #8

I think (hope?) this presents an opportunity for the nuns to make even more progress. cbayer Apr 2012 #3

And exactly what else would they do? skepticscott Apr 2012 #7

Not so much a rap on the knuckles as a kick in the head. n/ Peregrine Took Apr 2012 #5

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When private organizations enforce their own rules we should be consistent dmallind Apr 2012 #9

dballance

(5,756 posts)

1. They Should Break off From the Church

Reply to moobu2 (Original post)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 10:42 AM

Apr 2012

And form their own organization. It seems the Nun's moral compass points a little more reliably to true north than the Priest's compass.

DCKit

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2. Fish (and the Vatican) rots from the head down. nt

Reply to dballance (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 11:12 AM

Apr 2012

cbayer

(146,218 posts)

4. I agree. I wonder if they are discussing such a revolt.

Reply to dballance (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:03 PM

Apr 2012

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)

8. Please amuse us

Reply to cbayer (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 10:21 PM

Apr 2012

and tell us what form a "revolt" that is even vanishingly likely to occur or to have any effect if it did occur would take.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)

3. I think (hope?) this presents an opportunity for the nuns to make even more progress.

Reply to moobu2 (Original post)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:03 PM

Apr 2012

The rank and file were already pretty po'ed at the males in the Vatican. This is just salt in the wound. I hope the nuns don't just back down.

skepticscott

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7. And exactly what else would they do?

Reply to cbayer (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 10:19 PM

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Form more cutesy little organizations that have absolutely no influence with the redhat club? Take off their habits and walk away completely from the RCC? (yeah, right) What would they make "progress" towards? Being given an even greater "nurturing" role in the church than the men who control everything that matters have already granted them?

Peregrine Took

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5. Not so much a rap on the knuckles as a kick in the head. n/

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Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:29 PM

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dmallind

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9. When private organizations enforce their own rules we should be consistent

Reply to moobu2 (Original post)

Mon Apr 23, 2012, 09:57 AM

Apr 2012

Unless you rail against the BSA kicking out and excluding atheists; unless you say "shame!" when religious schools refuse to allow secular student groups; unless you fire off angry letters to religious charities who refuse to hire those who do not share their credo - by what logically consistent lights do you dare criticize another private religious group keeping its voluntary members in lockstep?

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