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cleanhippie

(19,705 posts) Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:56 PM Feb 2016

“Under God” Is Really Just Another Christian Prayer

It’s like atheists keep saying: The Pledge of Allegiance is nothing but a Christian prayer in disguise.

When a sanctimonious cartoon like Family Circus admits what we all know to be true, it’s time for Christians to stop hiding behind the “ceremonial Deism” argument.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/02/19/under-god-is-really-just-another-christian-prayer/?repeat=w3tc

Amen!

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“Under God” Is Really Just Another Christian Prayer (Original Post) cleanhippie Feb 2016 OP

With or without any gods, the Pledge of Alegiance is a prayer for Nationalism. stone space Feb 2016 #1

Bullseye! cleanhippie Feb 2016 #2

1954 like you said w0nderer Feb 2016 #3

+1 cleanhippie Feb 2016 #5

It's a loyalty oath Major Nikon Feb 2016 #6

In its own way so is DU Leontius Feb 2016 #7

I don't know that children are compelled to recite DU each day Major Nikon Feb 2016 #8

Don't play stupid you know what I meant. Leontius Feb 2016 #9

I don't have the slightest idea what you meant Major Nikon Feb 2016 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Leontius Feb 2016 #11

The interesting thing is that you can exboyfil Feb 2016 #4

Never took it as such. Igel Feb 2016 #12

stone space

(6,498 posts)

1. With or without any gods, the Pledge of Alegiance is a prayer for Nationalism.

Reply to cleanhippie (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:58 PM

Feb 2016

It's not just two words.

Remove those two words, and it will still be a prayer.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)

2. Bullseye!

Reply to stone space (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:01 PM

Feb 2016

You hit the target perfectly.

But when the xtians made the change in '53 (I think that was the year), it became a Christian prayer, exactly like they wanted it to become.

w0nderer

(1,937 posts)

3. 1954 like you said

Reply to cleanhippie (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:11 PM

Feb 2016

http://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm

history of the pledge

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)

5. +1

Reply to w0nderer (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:42 PM

Feb 2016

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)

6. It's a loyalty oath

Reply to stone space (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 05:50 PM

Feb 2016

Understandably, Hitler was very big on them.

Leontius

(2,270 posts)

7. In its own way so is DU

Reply to Major Nikon (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:45 PM

Feb 2016

So what's your point.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)

8. I don't know that children are compelled to recite DU each day

Reply to Leontius (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:03 PM

Feb 2016

But perhaps your household is different than mine.

Leontius

(2,270 posts)

9. Don't play stupid you know what I meant.

Reply to Major Nikon (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:04 PM

Feb 2016

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)

10. I don't have the slightest idea what you meant

Reply to Leontius (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:38 PM

Feb 2016

I'm not convinced you did either.

Response to Major Nikon (Reply #10)

Leontius This message was self-deleted by its author.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)

4. The interesting thing is that you can

Reply to cleanhippie (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:15 PM

Feb 2016

easily conclude from The Bible that reciting the pledge is not Christian. The Jehovah's Witnesses have this view.

Here is a good commentary on this topic.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/pledge-of-allegance/?repeat=w3tc

Igel

(35,337 posts)

12. Never took it as such.

Reply to cleanhippie (Original post)

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:13 PM

Feb 2016

It's only been 40 years.

But hey, if such an authority as Family Circle has decreed it to be a prayer, then it must be a prayer.

Because there is no Higher Authority.

It's a fact, scientifically proven.

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