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Cartoonist

(7,320 posts)
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:00 PM Apr 2016

Abby gets it wrong

DEAR ABBY: About a year ago, my daughter befriended a schoolmate. After numerous playdates, our families have become close. While my family is atheist, we know this family is devoutly Christian. Recently, after I mentioned in conversation that we "weren't religious," they invited us to their church for service. I diplomatically declined, but it felt awkward having told the mom our non-beliefs.

Since then, this family invites us to church constantly, and the mom routinely brings up Scripture while we're talking. I feel like they are trying to convert us. I'm hurt that the respect we have extended to this family isn't being reciprocated. How do I let her know she's being disrespectful to me and my family's beliefs without jeopardizing the friendship between our families?
-- ATHEIST IN THE SOUTH


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Her response is so full of religious privilege it makes me sick.

DEAR ATHEIST: I can't guarantee that the woman won't take offense, but it's less likely if you refrain from using the word "disrespectful." Try to remember that she thinks she's offering you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. It might be gentler if you told her that in light of the fact that you are an atheist, you find what she's trying to do to be "hurtful."

Continue to politely refuse her invitations to attend her church. If she's in the habit of quoting Scripture in normal conversation, you will have to grit your teeth and tolerate it. (Remember, we all have freedom of expression.) But I can't guarantee that you will always remain as close as you have been, not because she's hurt that you're not interested in being converted, but because at some point you may find her behavior so annoying that YOU will end the relationship.


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TDale313

(7,820 posts)
2. I guess it comes down to how invested the writer is in protecting this friendship.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:12 PM
Apr 2016

And I think Abby was going off the assumption (based on the letter, not off base) that she does want to save the friendship. She is basically saying that the religious friend is not likely to change and thinks she's doing the right thing. The writer can speak up (gently if she wants to protect the friendship or friend's feelings) but in the end the writer will likely have to decide if the friend's actions make the relationship not worth the insults/aggravation.

Cartoonist

(7,320 posts)
5. Stand your ground!
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:37 PM
Apr 2016

For starters, I would definitely tell her that she was being disrespectful, which is exactly what she is doing. Ask her neighbor if she would appreciate it if she returned the disrespect and proselytized her atheism. I certainly wouldn't tell her to grit her teeth and tolerate it.

As for losing her friendship, what friendship? Since her neighbor continues to disrespect her despite her pleas, WTF? I realize no one wants to create enemies, but there comes a time when you have to stand up for your own identity. Is there a tactful way do deal with such fundamentalism? I'm not the guy to ask, but Abby was no help either.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
6. If it were just me, I'd be blunt.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:48 PM
Apr 2016

But, since they are friends because their daughters became friends, I wouldn't want them in the middle of it.

I'd probably tell them let's talk about our daughters, not Jesus.

In the meantime, I expect I'd learn a lot more about their particular religion and then talk to them about it when the children were not around.

But that's just me. I find religions a fascinating topic. After a few conversations, they'd probably tell their friends they were going to ignore me and that would be that.

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
7. I agree with you - short of patting the poor 'atheist' on the head,
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:13 AM
Apr 2016

and telling her that God loves her too, it smacks of Xian privilege. Particulary unpleasant bit:

you will have to grit your teeth and tolerate it. (Remember, we all have freedom of expression.)

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
8. Yes, that part is rather ironic.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:43 PM
Apr 2016

Shut up, atheist, and listen to the Christian who has freedom of expression.

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