Religion
Related: About this forumCatholic News Service editor asked to resign
http://ncronline.org/news/people/catholic-news-service-editor-asked-resignHe was too conservative, right? Felt the pressure from the new wonderpope to step aside and allow liberalism to wash over the church?
Nope.
In recent days Spence had been attacked by conservative Catholic blogs for tweets he had posted about controversial religious freedom bills in North Carolina and Georgia. These sites accused Spence of "promoting the LGBT agenda."
"The far right blogsphere and their troops started coming after me again and it was too much for the USCCB," Spence told NCR in an interview Thursday.
Oh. Well, at least the pope and his bold new liberal church had his back, right?
Ahem. Alrighty then. Change and progress and hugging lepers and washing feet and all that.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Unlike some of those Christian fanatics...who are DEvolving!
Catholics no longer have to eat fish on Friday.
No more purgatory.
No more Spanish Inquisitions.
Mass in English (Loved the old Latin Mass..at least they taught Latin in school)
I am sure there are many smaller changes, but have not been to church in years!
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Maybe in another hundred years or so they'll accept women as equals and and not consider LGBT 'disordered'.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)It's ok to admit that you simply don't care.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Thank god I did not live during the witch hunts in MA, I'd been burned at the stake for sure..but of course it WAS hell (actually) for those women who lived back then.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)right now, they are actively trying to change laws that offer equality and choice, or introduce laws that restrict equality and choice. THAT is oppression.
Willful ignorance isn't a strong position to argue from.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)the church to welcome them AND divorced and remarried Catholics...THAT IS PROGRESS
trotsky
(49,533 posts)He said that homosexuals need help for their 'condition.'
He said that everyone needs to accept their birth gender.
He also said that nothing has changed regarding divorced and remarried Catholics.
Not sure how you got his message 100% wrong, but then again, that's the magic of the PR Pope.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)See things evolve just as the RC church has...
IF Hillary had gone to the Vatican rather than Bernie you would be giving praises to Pope Francis!
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Wow, I learned something new today.
(And actually, I support Bernie.)
Quite the strikeout on your post, it appears.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)about communion, they could get divorced and just live in 'sin'.
Hell, I knew a former Priest married to a former Nun...I don't think their first and last thought was "gee, I can't have communion any more" !
muriel_volestrangler
(101,385 posts)And when you don't know a DUer, you might start by looking at their profile. For trotsky, you find his favorite group over the last 90 days has been GD - so it doesn't look like he's fixated on the Democratic primary. His favorite group is Religion (note - neither the Bernie Sanders nor Hillary Clinton group), so you'd be far better off thinking his opinions look at how religion affects the world, and then maybe bases a choice between candidates on that, than the other way round.
What reason do you have for thinking trotsky is a Hillary supporter?
Iggo
(47,571 posts)angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Hell, there are people who live to 100 and older.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Among them are kids and young adults who commit suicide because their church tells them who they are is a sin, that there is something "intrinsically disordered" with them.
The pope could change that in an instant if he wanted to. Why doesn't he?
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)the better off the entire society will become...and 'Christianity' will have to follow or be left behind, like the worshipers of Zeus!
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Why doesn't he?
Cartoonist
(7,323 posts)I didn't have to wait for society as a whole. I decided what the right thing to do was, and I did it. The Pope can do that too. It's called leading.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Nobody likes to talk about it though. If you do eat meat on Friday, you are supposed to give up something else. We never had meat on Friday at the seminary.
One might say that their attitude toward gays and their "don't use condoms even though it would help curb AIDS" might be a form of Inquisition.
How about their more bigoted stances: gays? women? reproductive rights? Those old chestnuts are still in practice.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Father Berrigan's day...
Hell, when I was a youngun, folks were jailed if an unmarried man and an unmarried woman were caught having sex.
Of course gay sex was considered much worse and jail time was longer.
See, we evolve, some for the better and some for the worse.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Such a monolithic church.