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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 09:07 AM Apr 2016

Catholic News Service editor asked to resign

http://ncronline.org/news/people/catholic-news-service-editor-asked-resign

He was too conservative, right? Felt the pressure from the new wonderpope to step aside and allow liberalism to wash over the church?

Nope.

Tony Spence, director and editor-in-chief of Catholic News Service since 2004, unexpectedly resigned from that position Wednesday...

In recent days Spence had been attacked by conservative Catholic blogs for tweets he had posted about controversial religious freedom bills in North Carolina and Georgia. These sites accused Spence of "promoting the LGBT agenda."

"The far right blogsphere and their troops started coming after me again and it was too much for the USCCB," Spence told NCR in an interview Thursday.


Oh. Well, at least the pope and his bold new liberal church had his back, right?

"The secretary general (of the U.S. bishops' conference) asked for my resignation, because the conference had lost confidence in my ability to lead CNS," Spence told NCR.


Ahem. Alrighty then. Change and progress and hugging lepers and washing feet and all that.
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Catholic News Service editor asked to resign (Original Post) trotsky Apr 2016 OP
Only apologists are fooled by the pope's PR flack. AtheistCrusader Apr 2016 #1
The Catholic Church is ever evolving..FORWARD..who knows??? angstlessk Apr 2016 #2
Wow, that's some really progressive stuff! cleanhippie Apr 2016 #3
Perhaps...a hundred years ain't a long time...n/t angstlessk Apr 2016 #4
It is for the women and LGBT that have to live through the continued oppression. cleanhippie Apr 2016 #5
Please, the RC church is not opressing them...it just dosen't like them...bad on the church, but... angstlessk Apr 2016 #6
Seriously? The RCC's political lobby has deep pockets and an oppressive agenda. cleanhippie Apr 2016 #7
This pope is not 'out to get gays and women' he actually said while not agreeing with LGBT he wants angstlessk Apr 2016 #8
You need to look at what he actually said, not the spin. trotsky Apr 2016 #11
EVERYTHING you said there WAS secular law years ago angstlessk Apr 2016 #12
It was secular law that remarried Catholics couldn't take communion? trotsky Apr 2016 #14
No one goes to jail if they don't take communion...and if they cared that much angstlessk Apr 2016 #15
That shows you don't know trotsky at all muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #21
A hundred years is a very long time in the real world. (n/t) Iggo Apr 2016 #13
Not in the 'real' world in OUR world...the 'real' world is many millions of years old angstlessk Apr 2016 #16
There are more people who don't live to 100. trotsky Apr 2016 #17
It is society as a whole...the more accepted GLBT becomes angstlessk Apr 2016 #18
The pope could change church policy right now. trotsky Apr 2016 #20
No waiting Cartoonist Apr 2016 #22
Well, the fish thing is kind of there. Goblinmonger Apr 2016 #9
I know, but the church has proved it's ability to become as liberal as it was during angstlessk Apr 2016 #10
More from NPR: trotsky Apr 2016 #19
And it's reported in the National Catholic Reporter. rug Apr 2016 #23

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
2. The Catholic Church is ever evolving..FORWARD..who knows???
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:03 AM
Apr 2016

Unlike some of those Christian fanatics...who are DEvolving!

Catholics no longer have to eat fish on Friday.
No more purgatory.
No more Spanish Inquisitions.
Mass in English (Loved the old Latin Mass..at least they taught Latin in school)

I am sure there are many smaller changes, but have not been to church in years!

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
3. Wow, that's some really progressive stuff!
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 10:54 AM
Apr 2016

Maybe in another hundred years or so they'll accept women as equals and and not consider LGBT 'disordered'.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
5. It is for the women and LGBT that have to live through the continued oppression.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:01 AM
Apr 2016

It's ok to admit that you simply don't care.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
6. Please, the RC church is not opressing them...it just dosen't like them...bad on the church, but...
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:15 AM
Apr 2016

Thank god I did not live during the witch hunts in MA, I'd been burned at the stake for sure..but of course it WAS hell (actually) for those women who lived back then.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
7. Seriously? The RCC's political lobby has deep pockets and an oppressive agenda.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:21 AM
Apr 2016

right now, they are actively trying to change laws that offer equality and choice, or introduce laws that restrict equality and choice. THAT is oppression.

Willful ignorance isn't a strong position to argue from.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
8. This pope is not 'out to get gays and women' he actually said while not agreeing with LGBT he wants
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:26 AM
Apr 2016

the church to welcome them AND divorced and remarried Catholics...THAT IS PROGRESS

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
11. You need to look at what he actually said, not the spin.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:25 PM
Apr 2016

He said that homosexuals need help for their 'condition.'

He said that everyone needs to accept their birth gender.

He also said that nothing has changed regarding divorced and remarried Catholics.

Not sure how you got his message 100% wrong, but then again, that's the magic of the PR Pope.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
12. EVERYTHING you said there WAS secular law years ago
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:33 PM
Apr 2016

See things evolve just as the RC church has...

IF Hillary had gone to the Vatican rather than Bernie you would be giving praises to Pope Francis!

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
14. It was secular law that remarried Catholics couldn't take communion?
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:36 PM
Apr 2016

Wow, I learned something new today.

(And actually, I support Bernie.)

Quite the strikeout on your post, it appears.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
15. No one goes to jail if they don't take communion...and if they cared that much
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:49 PM
Apr 2016

about communion, they could get divorced and just live in 'sin'.

Hell, I knew a former Priest married to a former Nun...I don't think their first and last thought was "gee, I can't have communion any more" !

muriel_volestrangler

(101,385 posts)
21. That shows you don't know trotsky at all
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:34 PM
Apr 2016

And when you don't know a DUer, you might start by looking at their profile. For trotsky, you find his favorite group over the last 90 days has been GD - so it doesn't look like he's fixated on the Democratic primary. His favorite group is Religion (note - neither the Bernie Sanders nor Hillary Clinton group), so you'd be far better off thinking his opinions look at how religion affects the world, and then maybe bases a choice between candidates on that, than the other way round.

What reason do you have for thinking trotsky is a Hillary supporter?

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
16. Not in the 'real' world in OUR world...the 'real' world is many millions of years old
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:51 PM
Apr 2016

Hell, there are people who live to 100 and older.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
17. There are more people who don't live to 100.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 02:34 PM
Apr 2016

Among them are kids and young adults who commit suicide because their church tells them who they are is a sin, that there is something "intrinsically disordered" with them.

The pope could change that in an instant if he wanted to. Why doesn't he?

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
18. It is society as a whole...the more accepted GLBT becomes
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 02:45 PM
Apr 2016

the better off the entire society will become...and 'Christianity' will have to follow or be left behind, like the worshipers of Zeus!

Cartoonist

(7,323 posts)
22. No waiting
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 05:51 PM
Apr 2016

I didn't have to wait for society as a whole. I decided what the right thing to do was, and I did it. The Pope can do that too. It's called leading.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
9. Well, the fish thing is kind of there.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:51 AM
Apr 2016

Nobody likes to talk about it though. If you do eat meat on Friday, you are supposed to give up something else. We never had meat on Friday at the seminary.

One might say that their attitude toward gays and their "don't use condoms even though it would help curb AIDS" might be a form of Inquisition.

How about their more bigoted stances: gays? women? reproductive rights? Those old chestnuts are still in practice.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
10. I know, but the church has proved it's ability to become as liberal as it was during
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 11:59 AM
Apr 2016

Father Berrigan's day...

Hell, when I was a youngun, folks were jailed if an unmarried man and an unmarried woman were caught having sex.

Of course gay sex was considered much worse and jail time was longer.

See, we evolve, some for the better and some for the worse.

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