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rug

(82,333 posts)
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 06:37 PM Apr 2016

Virginia County Blocks Mosque. Where Are Religious Liberty Advocates?

APRIL 15 2016 1:57 PM
By Mark Joseph Stern

It is an open secret that the modern “religious liberty” movement caters almost exclusively to conservative Christians who demand the freedom to discriminate against LGBTQ people. While the religious right fixates on bakers’ right to kick same-sex couples out of their stores, Islamophobia runs rampant throughout the country. Muslims in America face terrible discrimination in schools, in their communities, and in their houses of worship. And yet “religious liberty” advocates remain largely silent about the plight of Muslims, even arguing that America should exclude Syrian refugees because violence and rape are inherent to Islam.

This month, Virginia’s Culpeper County provided the latest instance of anti-Muslim “religious liberty” hypocrisy. The county’s state representatives recently voted in favor of an anti-LGBTQ bill that purported to protect religious freedom. Yet in April, the county’s Board of Supervisors voted to prevent a Muslim group from building a mosque on an abandoned lot. The roughly 20 Muslims, who currently lack a proper prayer space, asked for a sewage system permit to begin cleaning up the area before constructing their mosque.

But the board voted down the request—spurring cheers and applause among the Culpeper residents at the meeting. Before the vote, some locals had put up signs reading “No Islamic Center.” The board’s decision effectively prevents the Muslims from moving forward with their plan to build a prayer space on the land. Board members’ explanation—that the requested system could only be used in emergencies—is almost certainly pretext: In the last two decades, the board has granted 19 such sewage system permits, and rejected only one.

Thus far, the state representatives who so recently fought to protect anti-LGBTQ “religious liberty” have remained silent. So, too, have the advocacy groups that have spent millions defending anti-gay bakers, florists, and photographers who demand the right to refuse services to same-sex couples. And even the religious liberty activists who believe Christian employers should be able to deny their workers access to contraception have kept mum. Here is a live case of likely Islamophobia, and the country’s self-proclaimed religious freedom warriors will not raise a finger.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2016/04/15/culpeper_county_islamic_center_rejected_by_board_religious_liberty.html

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Virginia County Blocks Mosque. Where Are Religious Liberty Advocates? (Original Post) rug Apr 2016 OP
It's the kind of article that makes me feeling very informed. Igel Apr 2016 #1
O have questions too. But then there's this: rug Apr 2016 #2

Igel

(35,362 posts)
1. It's the kind of article that makes me feeling very informed.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:04 PM
Apr 2016

Even though my logic centers tell me that I'm not informed in the least.

Sounds like the permits are frequently granted. Only was rejected, a 5% rejection rate. But what were the ones that were approved--*were* they things that could be construed as "emergencies" or is that a dodge. We're led to think that it's a dodge, but on the basis of incomplete information without a context. It's not a frequent system, being used once a year on average. No word on the distribution--typically when you see figures like that people stretch back to get a reasonable number. I suspect that in recent years it's almost never been used, but saw more use 10 to 20 years ago. This matters.


What else is going on in the neighborhood? Was there any kind of outreach? Any tensions? How would it affect the community? Has there been a lot of arguing over this space and these plans?

Heck, a local synagogue is asking to rent space and that would require a remodelling permit. They're having a public meeting on whether to grant the permit--standard practice, it turns out, for that community, not exceptional--and want members to show up and present themselves well as the rabbi makes his pitch and explains what they are, who they are, and what they'd be using the place for. Why? Because the space served that community and has been empty, but if the congregation meets there then every Saturday there'll be a bunch of cars that need parking. That means outsiders coming in and that means more traffic. I imagine that the permit will be granted for the synagogue because there are no other plans in the offing for that building. But, you see, I know this to be true. I also know that there's no ill will between the group and the community. It's just that the synagogue is a bit strange, that's all, and not your typical synagogue. However, I learned that the synagogue also has a kind of study session one weeknight a week, that lasts until 10 pm, and that might be an answer; it has a band that needs to practice, and that might be an issue. In addition to any latent anti-semitism.

Don't know if the vote was reasonable or not. Just that the article isn't about the mosque or religious liberty, but saying, "They're hypocrites, so they're wrong." The actual article content plays to sympathies but they're just a red herring, the material used to build the argument. Any will do.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
2. O have questions too. But then there's this:
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 10:18 PM
Apr 2016
A roomful of Culpeper County citizens cheered Tuesday morning when Supervisor Bill Chase made a motion to deny a request from the Islamic Center of Culpeper for a pump & haul permit to serve an envisioned mosque to be built on Rixeyville Road.

http://www.dailyprogress.com/starexponent/culpeper-county-denies-islamic-center-s-permit-request/article_361222b6-fb47-11e5-9f9f-c7e376b4100f.html

How often do people cheer for or against sewage permits?
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