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NAR doctrine holds that its movement prophets can receive divine revelation directly from God. ACPE's (Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders) two-dozen odd prophets have the ability to issue prophetic statements that can, in effect, add new scriptural teaching to the Bible. The one catch is that these prophetic statements cannot contradict scripture.
One 2007 edict from an ACPE member clarified God's will concerning abortion -- as an act that requires a compensatory shedding of blood. In 2008, ACPE head Wagner stated,
"There are principles in the Bible that you can put together and make a case for it, but you look up the word 'abortion' in your Concordance--it's not there. See? And, so, all I'm saying is that's a good, live example of something that we have received from the Holy Spirit that is now legitimate.. But the Holy Spirit has revealed to us that abortion is murder. See?"
So this brings up a question that I've never seen a believer be able to answer. If we discount the idea of gods or spirits, it's easy to say these guys are full of shit. But if we acknowledge that gods and spirits are real, and can reveal knowledge to humans, how exactly do we counter this dangerous stuff? Who is to say that the "Holy Spirit" didn't speak to them?
mr blur
(7,753 posts)That's some serious drivel, right there.
Albertoo
(2,016 posts)The Judge Dee character is based on the historical figure Di Renjie (c. 630c. 700), magistrate and statesman of the Tang court. During the Ming Dynasty (13681644) in China, a "folk novel" was written set in former times, but filled with anachronisms. Van Gulik found in the 18th century Di Gong An (Chinese:狄公案 Pinyin: dí gōng àn, lit. "Cases of Judge Dee" an original tale dealing with three cases simultaneously, and, which was unusual among Chinese mystery tales, a plot that for the most part lacked an overbearing supernatural element which could alienate Western readers.[1] He translated it into English and had it published in 1949 under the title Celebrated Cases of Judge Dee. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Dee
The case which could apply to your question about people claiming that the "Holy Spirit" spoke to them is that of the three -aptly- monks who tried to claim recovered gold ingots, claiming they came from the melting of their gold statue of goddess such and such. Judge Dee asked the monks to sit each at one of the three sides of the courtroom and draw the gold statue. Then the judge showed the audience that the 3 drawings were totally dissimilar. And the monks were beaten with sticks.
May I suggest the same treatment for Bishop Harry Jackson? Beating with sticks included.