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struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:41 AM May 2016

California Senate rejects school credit for religious instruction

BY ALEXEI KOSEFF
MAY 23, 2016 5:00 PM

After a lengthy debate, the California Senate on Monday rejected a bill that would have allowed students unlimited time off from school and up to two elective credits toward graduation for private religious and moral instruction.

Senate Bill 1457, which was opposed by the state’s powerful teachers unions, faced strong objections from Democrats who argued that it would undermine the secular foundation of public education and violate the Constitution’s “establishment clause” separating church and state. Several members noted that the state would have no influence over the content of the religious instruction ...


http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article79430792.html

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California Senate rejects school credit for religious instruction (Original Post) struggle4progress May 2016 OP
Excellent! Silver_Witch May 2016 #1
Maybe you should do a little investigation then ... aggiesal May 2016 #2
are these religious based universities public universities?? NoMoreRepugs May 2016 #4
Would you consider Notre Dame a public university? ... aggiesal May 2016 #9
Excellent news! d_legendary1 May 2016 #3
I'm all for religion and moral instruction, but it should be JDPriestly May 2016 #5
It's a matter of common sense Plucketeer May 2016 #6
Am I correct that the objection is to granting credit, not to the time off? rug May 2016 #7
"The California Senate is rejecting legislation that would have allowed school districts struggle4progress May 2016 #8
Thanks. rug May 2016 #10
 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
1. Excellent!
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:49 AM
May 2016

Religion is the most destructive movement and I do not want my taxes or educational system paying for it of teaching it. IMHO no relious based school should get government educational money EVER!

Glad I live in california.

aggiesal

(8,917 posts)
2. Maybe you should do a little investigation then ...
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:46 AM
May 2016

because every religious based university in this country receives
federal dollars for grants and research, including California.

I live in California as well.

aggiesal

(8,917 posts)
9. Would you consider Notre Dame a public university? ...
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:40 PM
May 2016

Or Brandeis or BYU a public university?

I don't think you would, but I'll guarantee all of them
received public money.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
3. Excellent news!
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:51 AM
May 2016

Religious study should be voluntary, not mandatory. No one should have to be told that the (insert holy book here) is required reading to graduate from actual studies.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
5. I'm all for religion and moral instruction, but it should be
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:37 PM
May 2016

a matter of course and not a subject for credit in school.

And parents should teach it mostly by example at home. And the credit for that should and does go to the parents when we see the grown-up children who have loving values and respect for others and God's creation.

Teach children to care well for the environment and other people, and that is how you teach religion and moral instruction.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
6. It's a matter of common sense
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:41 PM
May 2016

Religion is so popular because it serves to try and fill the void that is a general lack of common sense.

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
8. "The California Senate is rejecting legislation that would have allowed school districts
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:40 PM
May 2016

to give high school credits to students who receive off-campus religious instruction ... California law allows a maximum of four absences per month for religious instruction. Morrell’s bill would have allowed them to use a class period for religious education and earn up to two elective credits."
Calif. rejects high school religion classes
Off-campus instruction, class period nixed by Senate
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: Monday, 5/23/2016

Sounds like a bit of both: no big extension of current time-off allowed and no HS credit offered

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