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rug

(82,333 posts)
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 12:38 PM Aug 2016

A Georgia School District May Be Sued After Ignoring Requests for an After School Satan Club



August 28, 2016
by Hemant Mehta

Still Elementary School in Marietta, Georgia is home to a (Christian) Good News Club. And since Fred Mephisto, the head of the local chapter of The Satanic Temple, is a graduate of the same District, he’s been leading the charge to make sure the school also offers an After School Satan club this year.

But it’s not going very well. That’s in part because the District refuses to even say if it received his application. (The article is behind a paywall.)

Mephisto said the chapter emailed the district its application to start an after-school program, called After School Satan, on August 1. He said FedEx delivered a hard copy of the application Monday and the group has called Superintendent Chris Ragsdale’s office twice.

“We haven’t heard anything back,” Mephisto said.

Mephisto, who said he graduated from a Cobb school, said the temple views the district’s lack of response as the district denying the application.

They seem to think that if they ignore him, he’ll just go away. They’re wrong.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/08/28/a-georgia-school-district-may-be-sued-after-ignoring-requests-for-an-after-school-satan-club/

I hope he sues. He's an idiot.

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A Georgia School District May Be Sued After Ignoring Requests for an After School Satan Club (Original Post) rug Aug 2016 OP
Oh that's funny. louis-t Aug 2016 #1
The whole thing is a joke. rug Aug 2016 #2
On whom? immoderate Aug 2016 #4
The people who live in the school district. rug Aug 2016 #6
without Satan the christians would have no one to blame for evil in the world Angry Dragon Aug 2016 #3
Satanists are the best! Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2016 #5
If you let one religion in, you gotta let them all in, seems simple... Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #7
Except that this group is explicitly not a religion rug Aug 2016 #8
Satanists are just as much a religion as people who believe in invisible sky men. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2016 #9
You forget, those accustomed to privilege feel equality is oppression. cleanhippie Aug 2016 #10
No, I am not surprised at all. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2016 #11
Oh, it's not his faith that's being threatened, it's his privilege. cleanhippie Aug 2016 #12
I surmise you're about two privileges up on me. rug Aug 2016 #22
The real stunt is thinking Christianity deserves a preferential place in education in our public Old and In the Way Aug 2016 #28
No, that is a violation of the Constitution. rug Aug 2016 #29
So we have a... tonedevil Aug 2016 #39
Constitutional violations are too serious to be countered with stunts. rug Aug 2016 #40
It is far from counterproductive... tonedevil Aug 2016 #41
Lucien Greaves group is as far from a religion as SNL is. rug Aug 2016 #18
See? Told you so. cleanhippie Aug 2016 #26
Satanism very much is a religion. Goblinmonger Aug 2016 #13
The Satanic Temple doesn't believe a word of it. rug Aug 2016 #19
That's like saying a Christian sect isn't "real" because the Vatican doesn't like it. Goblinmonger Aug 2016 #37
Your similes suck. rug Aug 2016 #43
So one more time to see if you have anything other than obfuscating snark: Goblinmonger Sep 2016 #45
Sure. And they have apostolic succession through Duarte-Costa. rug Sep 2016 #47
Really? Why isn't it a religion? Can you be specific? n/t Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #14
You'll never get an answer to this question...just watch. n/t Fix The Stupid Aug 2016 #15
Certainly won't get an answer, but a response full of deflection and obfuscation will certainly come cleanhippie Aug 2016 #16
Yet again you post something that is both factually wrong and a failed prediction. rug Aug 2016 #23
QED cleanhippie Aug 2016 #24
And you misused a classic step in logic. rug Aug 2016 #27
Called it. Spot on, too. cleanhippie Aug 2016 #25
Sure. rug Aug 2016 #20
And? Do you have a point here? n/t Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #32
If you can't see he's an opportunistic charlatan I can't help you. rug Aug 2016 #35
Opportunistic charlatan? Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2016 #36
No. Someone promoting an entity he doesn't believe exists did. rug Aug 2016 #42
Protip: Satanists dont worship satan. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2016 #44
Superprotip. The Satanic Temple are not Satanists. rug Sep 2016 #48
Yes, they are. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2016 #49
Uhm, I'm well aware of that and its irrelevant. n/t Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #38
Hail rug... tonedevil Aug 2016 #17
You are . . . . ? rug Aug 2016 #21
I'm here to learn... tonedevil Aug 2016 #30
The bullshit that is Lucien Greaves is independent of ASS. rug Aug 2016 #31
You obsession with Meisner is amusing. I don't understand it, but its funny... Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #33
I find your obsession with the second person plural amusing. rug Aug 2016 #34
Where students want an after-school science club, I'd bet they can probably get it struggle4progress Sep 2016 #46
 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
7. If you let one religion in, you gotta let them all in, seems simple...
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 01:54 AM
Aug 2016

love the Satanists who are taking that rule and running with it for all they are worth.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
8. Except that this group is explicitly not a religion
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 07:40 AM
Aug 2016

Neither is the Church of Bacon.

Or Monty Python's Flying Circus.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
9. Satanists are just as much a religion as people who believe in invisible sky men.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 08:25 AM
Aug 2016

I support them wholeheartedly in their endeavors. If you let invisible sky men worshipers in, then you need to let satanists in.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
10. You forget, those accustomed to privilege feel equality is oppression.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 08:54 AM
Aug 2016

Are you really surprised that one feels the satanists are a joke and shouldn't be allowed in?

Are you really surprised one would attempt to obfuscate the entire point of what the satanists are trying to accomplish here?

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
12. Oh, it's not his faith that's being threatened, it's his privilege.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:10 AM
Aug 2016

And to older white Christian males in this country, that's the one thing that scares the Jesus out of them. No pun intended.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
22. I surmise you're about two privileges up on me.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 08:56 PM
Aug 2016

I also surmise you have difficulty discerning an agenda driven political stunt from religion.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
28. The real stunt is thinking Christianity deserves a preferential place in education in our public
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:22 PM
Aug 2016

Schools. If you allow your choice of religion, then satanists have equal time. You really should have kept religion out of our public education system .

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
29. No, that is a violation of the Constitution.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:30 PM
Aug 2016

This is a stunt.

I hope he sues. I'd love to read his deposition.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
39. So we have a...
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:07 PM
Aug 2016

stunt on one hand and a violation of the Constitution on the other. For my part I have no issue with stunts, but violating the Constitution I find very serious. It seems as though you may feel differently and are willing to tolerate a little Constitution busting, but if trouble makers come along and pull stunts that reveal that state of affairs you want them at the very least shamed for their temerity.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
40. Constitutional violations are too serious to be countered with stunts.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 09:45 PM
Aug 2016

It seems as though you are willing to tolerate counterproductive stunts if you find them amusing.

I can only imagine what stunts you would support in Alabama in 1962. Maybe a Satanist sit-in at Woolworth's.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
41. It is far from counterproductive...
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 09:49 PM
Aug 2016

it provides clear example of the consequence of allowing religion where it doesn't belong.
What would be wrong with Satanists sitting in at the Woolworth counters? Do you think lunch counter sit-ins were stunts?

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
37. That's like saying a Christian sect isn't "real" because the Vatican doesn't like it.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 09:34 AM
Aug 2016

Your privilege is still showing.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
43. Your similes suck.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:12 PM
Aug 2016

Your willful ignorance is growing.

Oh, wait. You've boasted of your attendance at a high school seminary. Maybe it isn't willful.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
45. So one more time to see if you have anything other than obfuscating snark:
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 09:17 AM
Sep 2016

Do you think that the American National Catholic Church is a religion? They aren't recognized by the RCC, and I have added to the ways I've been excommunicated by attending a service at one of their shrines in Wisconsin.

Just because someone says this Satanist group isn't a religion doesn't mean they aren't.

I'm sure I'll just get more or nothing from you.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
47. Sure. And they have apostolic succession through Duarte-Costa.
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 03:13 PM
Sep 2016

The difference is they believe what they're saying.

Greaves and his acolytes don't.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
30. I'm here to learn...
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:05 PM
Aug 2016

which religions are real enough to sponser an after-school program. You are quick to name those which are not so I thought you fancied yourself the expert.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
31. The bullshit that is Lucien Greaves is independent of ASS.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:12 PM
Aug 2016

Such a clever acronym.

You want to learn? Just keep your eyes open.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
33. You obsession with Meisner is amusing. I don't understand it, but its funny...
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 03:10 AM
Aug 2016

to see you get out of sorts over something. Granted its not anything substantive, but we shouldn't expect much out of you.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
34. I find your obsession with the second person plural amusing.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 07:20 AM
Aug 2016

Generally that indicates a lack of confidence in one's own views.

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
46. Where students want an after-school science club, I'd bet they can probably get it
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 10:36 AM
Sep 2016

But it seems obvious nobody in Atlanta, LA, Portland, Pensacola, SLC, Seattle, Springfield, Tucson, or DC will start an in-school After School Satan club sponsored by a NYC group that has a small chapter in Detroit

School administrators and school boards usually like to focus locally and don't like hostile controversy



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