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Related: About this forumForced AA violates human rights: Atheist
By Eric MacKenzie
Wednesday, September 14, 2016
5:24:19 PDT PM
An atheist who objected on religious grounds to a requirement from his employer that he complete a 12-step addiction recovery program says he took his case to the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal to fight for secular treatment options.
This seems to be a systemic issue that employers, unions, professional colleges, correctional services and courts are forcing people to do this, said Byron Wood, whose complaint was accepted for filing against Vancouver Coastal Health and the BC Nurses Union.
The allegations in Woods complaint have not been proven as fact.
Wood, 39, had worked for a few years as a VCH nurse when he was hospitalized in 2013 for a psychiatric illness. While there, he was diagnosed with a substance abuse disorder. He claims he was required by VCH, the BCNU and College of Registered Nurses of B.C. to undergo an addiction assessment by a doctor before having his professional license reinstated.
http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/2016/09/14/forced-aa-violates-human-rights-atheist
http://www.bchrt.gov.bc.ca/law-library/decisions/2016/pdf/jul/91_CORRECTED_Wood_v_Vancouver_Coastal_Health_Authority_and_others_2016_BCHRT_91.pdf
Vogon_Glory
(9,127 posts)And the rest of us have a right to be protected from drunks who get behind the wheel and drive.
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)I speak from personal experience.
Your first time there, likely during the lowest point in your life, you get lovebombed. Everybody is so happy you're there, everybody wants to be your friend and you're strongly encouraged to get a sponsor straight away to keep you on the straight and narrow. You get applause every time you announce you're in your first 30 days of sobriety. They also do have their holy book, and they go through a series of rituals at every meeting, such as the reading of the 12 steps and traditions, etc, and they end with what amounts to a prayer circle and the reading of the serenity prayer. We were often told that the 12 steps were the only possible way to sobriety (i.e. salvation), and anyone who couldn't do it were "unfortunates" who "must have been born that way".
They can claim not to be religious because you're supposed to use your own interpretation of "God" or "Higher Power". "It can even be the doorknob", I was told.
Yeah, right. I'm nevertheless supposed to pray to and surrender to this higher power as I saw it. Praying to the doorknob or an oak tree, eh? Very useful.
I've been sober for a while now, and while I never did get a sponsor or took the 12 steps seriously, I enjoyed the fellowship and uncritical acceptance at the meetings. While I refer to being "lovebombed" (a standard cult recruitment technique), I nevertheless always felt that the friendship and comradery I found there were completely genuine.
I got more out of Smart Recovery, which is far less absolutist and is more science-based, but those meetings are much harder to find.
Your mileage may vary.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Just saying you're not a religious organization does not make it true. Religious groups make a lot of false claims, but AA takes the cake.
It's also a very ineffective method of treatment, and does a lot to exacerbate addiction problems.
Jim__
(14,083 posts)... from a list of approved programs.
That said, the respondents deny that Wood ever raised concerns about the religious aspects of the program. Scanning the complaint by the British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal, it sounds like this was an after-the-fact complaint filed by Wood.