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Related: About this forum2nd Opinion: What about the spiritual condition of extraterrestrial life?
https://www.baptiststandard.com/opinion/other/20017-2nd-opinion-what-about-the-spiritual-condition-of-extraterrestrial-lifeThe question of extraterrestrial lifeintelligent or otherwiseis faith-based. While individuals can "believe" whatever they wish, they may be wrong. It simply isn't known yet whether life is present on those planets. Maybe it's there; maybe not.
But faith, misguided or real, is operative here. Faith that:
If there's water, some rudimentary form of life must exist.
More advanced creatures could exist there.
Life finds a way, if you endorse the evolutionary scheme of things; I don't.
God is free to create other life separately from human concerns; yet the specialness of human beings isn't compromised.
Intelligent beings not made in God's image are a creative possibility.
Intelligent beings, if made in God's image, remain unfallen, or if fallen, a redemptive plan is under way; problematic because Jesus Christ is the God-man forever.
Any blueprint for the new heaven and earth will somehow include all planets everywhere.
Regardless, we won't be going to TRAPPIST-1 anytime soon to find answers. But wait a second. If any of the planets somehow should prove dangerous, isn't it our fault? Or at least Adam and Eve's?
Fall here
Scholars disagree, too, about the extent to which earthly natural phenomenavolcanoes, hurricanes, floods, fires, etc.can be linked to Adam's sin. Why so? Because the text doesn't teach unequivocally they're the result of Adam's curse per se. It's only a projected inference and conceivably not the sole reason they recur. Paraphrasing it, Genesis 3:17-19 merely states Adam and his progeny will have a much tougher time growing food! No more, no less.
Few, then, should contend colliding galaxies billions of light-years away are the manifest result of Adam and Eve, disobedient to God as they were, eating a piece of fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Proving this from the biblical text is impossible, and making the fall the justifiable cause for the way the universe, near or far, naturally functions is, well, a leap of logic unsupported by evidence, an inference out of whack.
Accordingly, if God in his providence has placed conscious life on other planets, intelligent or not, there must be a reason, one with no real capacity to sabotage the Christian worldview and faith.
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Lint Head
(15,064 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)can always find something to support their beliefs and agendas.
Of course that applies equally well to theists and non-theists.
Agreed?
HAB911
(8,904 posts)non-theists ever dream up anything near the OP?
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Do androids dream of electric sheep?
uriel1972
(4,261 posts)no matter how deeply you believe.
I don't see athiests going to war over the exact nature of "Neuromancer" the AI.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)uriel1972
(4,261 posts)narratives are stories and are not reality. Some narratives may be closer to reality than others, but they are not reality itself.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)uriel1972
(4,261 posts)then I would be shocked.
Frail, feeble and fallible humanity perceives through it's senses mediated by the brain. No matter how hard we try we cannot perceive things exactly as they are. Reality is elusive to us.
Narratives close to reality is the best we can hope for, even with the best of scientific intentions, there will be limits to what we can perceive. If a narrative coincides exactly with reality that will be a coincidence. Even then it will remain a narrative, a story, not reality itself.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Wherein we see only the reflections of things.
And if there is a Creator, it is likely that human intelligence could not really comprehend the Creator's motivations and abilities. We generally do interpret motivation by our own personal experience.
HAB911
(8,904 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And it can still reflect reality in some aspects.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)with people made in God's image, just like we were, but they have never eaten the Forbidden Fruit, so they are still living in Eden.
They will be real rubes when we meet them. We can rob them blind.
Got off track here...what was the subject?
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Truly and terribly Trumpian.
A dystopia for Donald.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)EvolveOrConvolve
(6,452 posts)Righto!
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Being the one true religion and all.