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struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 05:35 AM Apr 2017

Should I be ashamed of myself?

LDS "missionaries" knocked my door the other day: two scrub-faced young women who left their bikes unchained on a nearby lamp-post and wanted to share their views with me

They knocked very timidly and perhaps did not dare try the bell

I went out and told them that, being happy with my own church, I wasn't likely to convert

I did not inquire whether converting to their religion would guarantee me a planet of my own

I politely declined some literature intended to get me to watch an on-line video

I did not express any curiosity about the history of LDS polygamy, nor suggest that I might consider converting if their church would let me marry several women at once, nor ask if both of them would like to marry me

I made kindly noises about what a lovely day it was for door-knocking and pleasantly sent them on their way

I did not seek to discover whether they wore magic knickers or request they show me their lingerie

I know some of you will be disappointed with me

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Rhiannon12866

(205,506 posts)
1. I think you deserve credit for being kind and polite, since apparently not everyone is
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 05:43 AM
Apr 2017

One time a man and his very young daughter came to my door and I reacted the same way, smiled and took their pamphlet and that was it. A few minutes later, I was surprised to see them back - and the man told me that he just wanted to let me know how nice his little girl thought I was. Made me cringe inside to think what kinds of things that poor kid had seen and heard...

TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
2. Shame on you.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 05:47 AM
Apr 2017


You should have asked them about the White Horse Prophecy and whether they believed that any of Mitt Romney's children will ever become president.

Thanks for sharing your recent encounter.

brush

(53,788 posts)
7. You just made me think: The Secret Service is catching hell guarding all these trump kids...
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 08:05 AM
Apr 2017

it would have been even worse for them with Romney's five sons — none in the service btw.

J_William_Ryan

(1,755 posts)
4. Religion is subjective, private, and personal,
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 06:21 AM
Apr 2017

not something to be flogged from door to door like vacuum cleaners.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
11. Lots of things fall into the category of "subjective, private, and personal."
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 10:52 AM
Apr 2017

Morals of various sorts, political views based on morality or religion. (You know, things like "as you do to the least of these" kinds of mix-church-and-state arguments.)

We air them constantly, and often insist on having ours not only aired, but heard, understand, and appreciated if not unanimously adopted.

JWs, Mormons, precinct walkers ... At least we don't have religious commercials for two weeks running up to Easter or Eid.

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
9. it's pretty recent
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 10:22 AM
Apr 2017

back in 2014 or 15 we had 2 young lady missionaries show up at our house in Philadelphia. My husband and I joked that that must be their new marketing scheme -- send the hot young things out to soften the hearts of the Northern Philadelphia "bros" rofl.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
6. Missed opportunity for answers.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 07:53 AM
Apr 2017

Question: Do all LDS members transport their dogs on the rooftop of their vehicles? Oh and yes, be ashamed. Be very ashamed!

Cartoonist

(7,317 posts)
8. 2 scrub-faced young women
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 08:16 AM
Apr 2017

I would have invited them inside for a menage a trois. I'm also cool with the missionary position.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
10. Yes, maybe not ashamed, but...
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 10:22 AM
Apr 2017

Mocking the deeply held religious beliefs of others is, at best, rude and can be hurtful and cause pain. Those young people are sincere and living in accordance with a belief that means much to them. I agree with the comment that religious faith is something that should be kept to one's self, but mockery is not the way to disagree with sincere expression of faith.

Now things like advocacy of racism and anti-semitism, ignorant ideals which harm others and inflict pain an fellow man, mock away.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
12. Politeness is always the best reponse.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 12:04 PM
Apr 2017

And polygamy has not been a tenet of that faith for many years. Just as Judaism no longer tolerates animal sacrifice.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
15. I remember being accosted by a couple of LDS missionaries in my parent's backyard...
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 01:54 AM
Apr 2017

while watching my bi-racial nephew when he was about 2 or so.

To paint the scene, we were in the back yard behind the side "carport" which isn't roofed or anything, so had a clear view of the street and the LDS members had a clear view of us, even though we were behind a fence.

2 guys in very white, very pressed button downs and pitch black pants came up to us and asked if I was interested in hearing about the LDS church. My best friend, both back then and now, is an ex-LDS member who happens to be lesbian.

My reaction to this attempt at conversion or conversation was to laugh at them, tell them I'm well aware of what their church teaches, and that it changes its teachings out of convenience, pointed to my nephew, and told them to leave. Colorful language might have been involved, it was probably almost 10 years ago now.

Bretton Garcia

(970 posts)
16. Normally I am not a rude person
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 06:02 AM
Apr 2017

So why would I support rudeness toward religious folks?

In general, I note that there are some pious religious people who are not used to being questioned. Or who are used to thinking of themselves as being "holier than thou." And? It is sometimes very, very hard to get such folks to really, actually, be humble; and to doubt their beliefs.

In that case - of "humble" folks who are actually incredibly proud? I feel that it's time to use almost whatever methods we have, to try to get through to them.

And? Simply, flatly insulting them, is one way to try to get through.

Though I prefer reasoned argumentation.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
18. I just ask them to leave, and remind them that 'no soliciting' applies.
Tue Apr 11, 2017, 11:10 AM
Apr 2017

They always disagree, as they are not 'selling anything', but I point out membership in their church is not free, and they have auditors.

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