I'm on the discernment committee for a trans woman nearing her ordination as a priest.

And what denomination, if you do not mind the question.

We're a lay committee who supports someone working toward becoming a priest or deacon. We spend a lot of time with the person helping them clarify their goals, and we fill out forms for the diocese. Our woman is on her way. I can't wait for the ordination.

And I'm glad I did. I'm going to cry happy tears at her ordination.

One of my people decided on his own not to proceed. Bella's jumped almost all the hurdles and has the bishop behind her. She's going to make it, I know. 😃

I was a lay leader in that faith for 15 +years before leaving over my disgust with the judgemental attitude of the clergy.

My church currently has a same sex couple who are sharing the position/duties of Minister.

African American Gay Lutheran Bishop. What a great guy.

I say this not as an excuse, not as any type of defense, but as a reflection of reality.

For starting to overcome the bigotry of... uh, religion.

Thank you for clarifying!

Nowhere else?

You're in the RELIGION group.

Your OP is about a RELIGION.

Yeah, we're talking about RELIGIOUS bigotry.

Start a thread in some other group if you want to talk about non-religious bigotry.

Nobody is interested in meaningless semantics here. Religions are created by people, regardless of whether the supernatural deities they refer to actually exist or not. It is the human effort to institutionalize faith, rolled up with what they believe *in*, and what they hold as dogma/doctrine of that deity.

Any criticism of X Religion is of the Religion and the Humans that made/maintain the institutionalization of that faith.

The year I was born, the Mormon Church got a celestial faith fax and decided 'gosh, Black People aren't the cursed descendants of Cain after all' (because it was hurting church revenue/membership). So saying 'The Mormon church got over that (one specific) bigotry' isn't wrong. They had to edit the religion to un-do it.

Bigotry and Intolerance are institutionalized by humans.

The reason why the OP is BIG NEWS is because it is unusual for christian religious institutions to openly embrace LGBTQ equality. When it does happen it is a big deal.

role of religious institutions in society. It is these institutions, not just random people, that promulgate bigotry and intolerance.

If the stated purpose of an institution is to promote intolerance you would be correct in your statement. Instead, you appear to have inserted your own opinion about the role of religion, and further claimed that your opinion is the only correct one.

Is this indeed your intent?

promote intolerance?.

My post was a response to your statement upthread where you attempt to separate religion from bigotry, claiming it is just bigoted people not religions.

However, as religions generally claim moral authority, the fact the this alleged morality more often than not includes overt intolerance and bigotry is a huge problem.

"And yet you appear to be confused about the

role of religious institutions in society. It is these institutions, not just random people, that promulgate bigotry and intolerance."

In saying this, you are stating that the role of religious institutions is to promote bigotry and intolerance. It might be one aspect of how some religious institutions have responded to things, but the role of religion is not to promote bigotry.

Institutions are not intolerant, people are intolerant. And intolerance is a human characteristic.

The Catholic Church! Evidence: the other thread that upheld that prejudice against LGBTQIA was correct to the church's mission and beliefs.

But thank you for playing.

Because you're fighting against a court ruling, which you aggressively​ supported, I might add.

what a particular religion is.

Why didn't you just say so?

And I believe that you were a responder in that thread also.

For a while it was unclear at best where you stood.