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Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 11:03 AM Aug 2017

I'm Christian, But I Can't Ignore My Faith's Role in the White Supremacist Rally

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/08/13/im-christian-but-i-cant-ignore-my-faiths-role-in-the-white-supremacist-rally/


Your social media feeds are likely inundated with posts from Christians eager to defend their religion against the stain of the white supremacists who stormed Charlottesville, Virginia over the past few days. They’ll use the hashtag #NotAllChristians. They’ll remind you, for the umpteenth time in two thousand years, that “real” Christians aren’t bigoted and “true” Christians look nothing like those in white hoods.

I will not be one of them.

Truth be told, I’m probably as annoyed by the refrain of #NotAllChristians as you are. That may sound odd, coming from someone who is still part of that tribe (an Episcopalian, to be precise), but these “reminders” that not all Christians act a certain way is irritating.

I’m well aware — and non-Christians are always quick to point out — that the most powerful representatives of American Christianity are the ones with the biggest platforms in politics, business, and entertainment. And far too many of them — whether they’re excusing bad behavior by Donald Trump, selling buckets of food to people who fear the end of the world is near, asking for “seed” money that only benefits the televangelist, or spending $100 million on a boat that misinforms people about science — give the minority of us a bad name.


Finally. Someone gets it.
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I'm Christian, But I Can't Ignore My Faith's Role in the White Supremacist Rally (Original Post) Act_of_Reparation Aug 2017 OP
The established Christian Church is badly in need of reform vlyons Aug 2017 #1
There isn't an established Christian church. Mariana Aug 2017 #5
Most Christian churches have the same long-established ideology vlyons Aug 2017 #6
That is true, they are more alike than different Mariana Aug 2017 #7
She's so very close... trotsky Aug 2017 #2
Yes, she stumbles a bit there. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2017 #3
Totally agree. trotsky Aug 2017 #4
The media focuses on those who are most "media-genic", if there is such a term. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #8
Your attempt to pivot has been noted. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2017 #9
And your attempt to frame is duly noted. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #11
Way to miss the entire point of the piece. trotsky Aug 2017 #10
I'm Christian, So I Can't Ignore My Faith's Role in the White Supremacist Rally Iggo Aug 2017 #12
I assume she wrote it the way she meant it. nt. Mariana Aug 2017 #13
No doubt. Iggo Aug 2017 #14

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
1. The established Christian Church is badly in need of reform
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 11:12 AM
Aug 2017

There are too many calling themselves "Christians," who preach and practice a degenerate form of Christianity. From the intolerance of the Dominionists to the greed of the Prosperity preachers, the compassionate teachings of Jesus are being eclipsed and eroded. It is time for a major reformation in the spirit of St Francis of Assisi and Martin Luther.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
5. There isn't an established Christian church.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 04:28 PM
Aug 2017

There are thousands of established Christian churches. Every one of them is certain they are right, that they are interpreting the book correctly, that they are doing what God wants them to do, and that everyone else is doing it wrong.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
6. Most Christian churches have the same long-established ideology
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 04:36 PM
Aug 2017

Belief in the resurrection, baptism to ensure salvation, trinity, date to celebrate easter, hierarchy of ordination, and submission to authority. That is the established Church. Notice how little it has to do with the compassionate teachings of Jesus.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
7. That is true, they are more alike than different
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 08:10 AM
Aug 2017

in most respects.

The question is, how do you convince all of them that they're doing it wrong, and that your way is the right way?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
2. She's so very close...
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 11:36 AM
Aug 2017

but still has a way to go.

I firmly believe that racism is antithetical to what the gospel represents — and many vocal Christians agree — but the relationship between religion and cognitive dissonance is a tale as old as time.


To still think that it's only the "bad" Christians who are dealing with cognitive dissonance still misses the point. There are passages in the bible - even the new testament - that are atrocious and anti-human. MANY of them are opposed to modern, progressive, enlightened thought. The writer of this article needs to understand that she, too, has her own cognitive dissonance going on.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
3. Yes, she stumbles a bit there.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 01:00 PM
Aug 2017

Especially in light of all the Jew-bashing in the Gospels.

Still, she gets it more than most. It's nice to know someone out there doesn't require us to preface any critique of Christian political behavior with "Not all Christians are X", where X is whatever the fuck we happen to be talking about.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
8. The media focuses on those who are most "media-genic", if there is such a term.
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:07 PM
Aug 2017

Those who court media attention with loud voices and those who are always ready with a press release on any issue that is currently the focus of a sensationalistic media that is always looking for the loud voice and the sensational quote or action.

Contrary to the last part of the quote, the "give the minority of us a bad name", the overwhelming majority of Christians and atheists and people of all beliefs and philosophies are not rallying in defense of white supremacy, but they are not "media-genic" enough to capture ratings. So the majority is ignored.

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