Religion
Related: About this forumIs the RCC a cult?
This guy thinks so:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/81de0cc9-dc80-30ac-9dae-2efb37147b61/ss_evangelical-pastor-robert.html
Evangelical pastor Robert Jeffress thinks the Catholic Church is a 'cult-like pagan religion'
An evangelical pastor and President Donald Trump supporter says Catholicism is a cult-like pagan religion and the success of the religion is due to the genius of Satan.
Dr. Robert Jeffress, a Southern Baptist pastor, says that the Roman Catholic Church is the result of the Babylonian cult system founded by the Book of Revelation.
Great book just out, "A Place Called Heaven," by Dr. Robert Jeffress - A wonderful man, said Trump.
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I'm loving this. A civil war among Xians. The Sunnis and Shiites will be taking notes.
BigmanPigman
(51,638 posts)to get my teaching credential I remember that I got a particular practice test question wrong. It asked "which religion is a cult?" and listed several religions and the correct answer was the Catholic religion. I think that many aspects of that religion are similar to cults. Don't ask me anything more than that since I am not into religions.
rurallib
(62,465 posts)state licensing I assume?
BigmanPigman
(51,638 posts)and is for those who want to teach in Elementary Schools (multiple subject). I had to take it when I changed careers when I was 32. I had to re-learn all the info I had learned in 12 years of schooling and had forgotten most of it. I had to read The World Book Encyclopedia to prepare for it and re-learn subjects from physics to world history...yuk! I passed it my first try but they lost my test and lied to me about it for 3 months (that was worse than preparing for the damn test). That religion question baffled me and that is why I remember it so well.
rurallib
(62,465 posts)like a Texas which appears to have quite a voice in text book writing.
TexasProgresive
(12,159 posts)cult |kəlt|
noun
a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object: the cult of St. Olaf.
a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister: a network of Satan-worshiping cults.
a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing: a cult of personality surrounding the leaders.
[ usu. as modifier ] a person or thing that is popular or fashionable, especially among a particular section of society: a cult film.
Cartoonist
(7,323 posts)How many believers does it take to be relegated from cult to the premier league?
TexasProgresive
(12,159 posts)ORIGIN
early 17th cent. (originally denoting homage paid to a divinity): from French culte or Latin cultus worship, from cult- inhabited, cultivated, worshiped, from the verb colere .
Bretton Garcia
(970 posts)There's even a word for it: "papism."
But in addition of course, all Christians venerate Jesus.
Cartoonist
(7,323 posts)a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object
TexasProgresive
(12,159 posts)including Southern Baptists.
Cartoonist
(7,323 posts)TexasProgresive
(12,159 posts)Bretton Garcia
(970 posts)TexasProgresive
(12,159 posts)Much ado about nothing.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)If you need to blindly and obediently follow some deity without question then it is a cult.
At least that is how I have thought about it for a long time.
SeattleVet
(5,480 posts)murielm99
(30,777 posts)TwistOneUp
(1,020 posts)Cults don't have Bingo!
murielm99
(30,777 posts)to identify a cult.
The RCC is not a cult. If you don't like them, fine. But they are not a cult.
Cartoonist
(7,323 posts)By definition, all religions ARE cults.
murielm99
(30,777 posts)You are starting out with a prejudiced statement, so I have no desire to engage you.
Cartoonist
(7,323 posts)Look up the word cult.
You can't apply your own definition of what constitutes a cult. Jesus started with a cult of twelve apostles. At what point did it stop being a cult?
Let's face it. No one likes to be called a cult. Religions use the word as an insult to other religions. Heaven forbid someone tell them to look in a mirror.
Mariana
(14,861 posts)and just making up definitions for words? There's been a lot of that on this group just lately.
Here's another entry for cult, from Merriam-Webster.
1 :formal religious veneration :worship
2 :a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also :its body of adherents
3 :a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also :its body of adherents
4 :a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator
5 a :great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (such as a film or book); especially :such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad
b :the object of such devotion
c :a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion
Definitions 1 and 2 clearly describe Catholicism, also pretty much every religious practice by everyone ever.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Most organized religions are cults
Igel
(35,366 posts)The word has different definitions.
When you use the word in a sentence, you need to understand which definition you're using. The reader or hearer needs to use the same definition--otherwise there's miscommunication.
It's a standard informal fallacy, shifting definitions. You start saying one thing and showing it's true, but then the definition shifts so the proposition you're discussing now isn't the one you proved true 2 minutes ago.
RCC is a cult. Absolutely.
RCC is not a cult. Absolutely.
Both are true.
There are obvious examples. Others are less obvious.
The bartender poured the shot. It made a rattling sound as it fell into the cartridge.
See how it works? "Bartender" tends to make you interpret the word "shot" as an alcohol-containing liquid. In the next sentence, you realize it's the little bits of metal hunters use to shoot at birds. The problem isn't the first sentence is bad--it's that the reader interprets the word "shot" with the wrong definition. The word "cult" has meanings far closer, so the dissonance when you get to a place where the word's shifted isn't so obvious. Then we (mistakenly and bull-headedly) assume that we have the right meaning and the other person is wrong. It's a foolish mistake, but people commit to it constantly.
Much of current American miscommunication is an error of this nature.
Iggo
(47,577 posts)Bretton Garcia
(970 posts)Texans fetishize the original all-cane suger version still produced in Texas.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)Well, my stomach started lurching.
edhopper
(33,639 posts)Not the congregation, but the RCC clergy has all the markings of a cult.
They are a small group that remove themselves from society, often recruited when they are adolescents.
The pedophile scandal shows that they see themselves as separate from the general RCC population and will protect their own over the safety and well being of the rank and file. All the markings of a cult.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Sometime before the universe collapses.
Permanut
(5,658 posts)are inspired by God, and are the most sacred texts ever created;
as opposed to the Satan inspired evil pagan hedonistic brainwashing emanating from yours.
Not putting down anyone's beliefs, just reacting to the right wing crap coming from some of my family members.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)I always marvel at people I know to be Catholic joining up with reich wingers who have long hated all things Catholic (since the reformation). If the zealots ever achieve their longed for theocracy Catholics and others would soon find their Christian brethren demanding conversion to "true Christianity" or death.
Religion is full of insanity.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,908 posts)They require unwavering belief, require you suspend your critical thinking, do and think what they tell you.
They are all cults.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)That hasn't required me to do anything, and they had no problem when I left, which is very un-cult like. The very definition of narrow minded thinking is over generalization and stereotyping.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)You do have the devout members.
But I knew the other ones who break all the rules, party like bandits every Sat night yet still make it to church on Sunday morning.
I know darned well Catholic women were suddenly " f this shit!" & headed to their Dr when the first batch of birth control pills rolled off the production line.
Cultists follow lock step what their leader, minister etc tell them to do.
Cultists would harm another, take their own life , give all they own, if their leader tells them the salvation of their special chosen souls requires it.
I know darned well that Catholics go through their rituals but have no problem sort of stretching those rules as it fits their personal business.
Not all mind you, just a good deal of them.
But they also believe that they'll be forgiven somehow in the end for always just remaining a Catholic.
They kind of give themselves a leeway, but they don't speak about it openly. The worst thing a Catholic can do is leave the church. That's a big one.
Other than that, they've been known to take a few liberties where Catholicism draws the lines of Papal do's & don'ts.
Good luck getting all catholics to live as the church tells them to.
You see, Catholics are cool as heck & pretty good at throwing a shindig, but as cults go, they're all over the place & no way are they ever going to get them all to stand in one neat straight line.
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That's how I've always seen it.
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)Some might characterize them all as cultish in nature, but sheer numbers sort of make that a silly thing to call the largest denomination of Christianity.
Had the RCC not existed, Christianity would probably have faded away centuries ago.