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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 03:27 PM Nov 2017

Why I was banned from the campus of Liberty University

From the article:

I went to Liberty University a few days ago for two reasons: to see my friends Johnnyswim in concert and pray with a handful of students.
These are students who have consistently expressed concern about Jerry Falwell Jr.’s support of the politics of Donald Trump and Steve Bannon, especially with regards to race and the conflation of Christianity with nationalism.
The response of the university was to send five police officers to come get me out of Johnnyswim’s greenroom on Monday night (Oct. 30) after the show, escort me outside, photograph me, and tell me I was barred from the campus for life — subject to arrest “if I ever put one foot on the property.”

Falwell openly encourages his students to carry guns, but fears public prayer from Christians who openly embrace nonviolence.


To read more:

http://religionnews.com/2017/11/03/why-i-was-banned-from-the-campus-of-liberty-university/

A private institution, with the legal right to admit or deny who it chooses, but an interesting example.
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Why I was banned from the campus of Liberty University (Original Post) guillaumeb Nov 2017 OP
So could they force the removal of hajibs an such? Nt Lordquinton Nov 2017 #1
One would assume so. trotsky Nov 2017 #2
Seems rather arbitrary as to which ones can do what Lordquinton Nov 2017 #3
Naw it's really simple. trotsky Nov 2017 #4
If only he'd grace us with his decree Lordquinton Nov 2017 #6
Is it a private institution? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #9
I don't understand what you're saying Lordquinton Nov 2017 #17
What needs clarification? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #21
You're not being consistent Lordquinton Nov 2017 #26
See #27. If that is the source of your confusion, #27 might help. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #28
Yep, you're being inconsistant Lordquinton Nov 2017 #30
Those Liberty U. people sure seem to be frightened of stuff, MineralMan Nov 2017 #5
Fear is indeed an issue. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #10
some religions live on fear Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #13
A private institution has the legal right to admit or deny who it chooses? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #7
Oh, snap! n/t trotsky Nov 2017 #8
Are you referring to the atheists group guillaumeb Nov 2017 #11
I doubt you are intimate with the circumstances of their founding. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #14
Shouldn't you be saying Lordquinton Nov 2017 #18
The post on the atheists group was about intolerance. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #22
Alright, let's play the guillaumeb game. trotsky Nov 2017 #24
Really? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #25
A group may exercise its rights and demonstrate intolerance in the exercise. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #27
So Atheists exercising their legal rights are intolerant Lordquinton Nov 2017 #29
Your motives are transparent, guillaumeb Nov 2017 #31
What are my motives? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #32
We don't even know if that's why the group in Boston booted the guy. Mariana Nov 2017 #12
There was a link provided. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #15
That's right, a link to the disgruntled guy's story. Mariana Nov 2017 #16
There was discussion of the article, and other points as well. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #20
I can understand why you definitely don't want your blatantly contradictory stance discussed. trotsky Nov 2017 #23
It's true, he may have been a toxic asshole the entire time... trotsky Nov 2017 #19

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
26. You're not being consistent
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 06:37 PM
Nov 2017

What framing are you using here, and how is it different from the issue asked about down thread?

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
30. Yep, you're being inconsistant
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:25 AM
Nov 2017

at this point it has to be intentional.

Sad, pathetic attempt at framing.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
5. Those Liberty U. people sure seem to be frightened of stuff,
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 04:00 PM
Nov 2017

for a University that has God Himself to protect it. Odd, that.

They sure don't have to worry about me, though. I would never set foot on that property. It's apparently full of hateful people, and I try very hard to avoid those.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
10. Fear is indeed an issue.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 06:16 PM
Nov 2017

As to this particular case, if it is private property one assumes that property rights apply.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
7. A private institution has the legal right to admit or deny who it chooses?
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 05:05 PM
Nov 2017

You mean like atheist groups in Boston that choose not to associate with Trump supporters? Or is that totes different because reasons?

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
11. Are you referring to the atheists group
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 06:18 PM
Nov 2017

that was not founded as a group exclusively for Democrats? That group?

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
14. I doubt you are intimate with the circumstances of their founding.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 08:45 PM
Nov 2017

But unless I am mistaken, the law doesn't care.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
22. The post on the atheists group was about intolerance.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:09 PM
Nov 2017

Do you understand that you are confusing the 2 things?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
24. Alright, let's play the guillaumeb game.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 05:07 PM
Nov 2017

Does a private Boston atheists group need to tolerate a disruptive Trump supporter?

Well, is it against the law for them to kick anyone out of their group? No, it is not.

QED.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
29. So Atheists exercising their legal rights are intolerant
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:24 AM
Nov 2017

but religious and hate groups are merely acting within the law?

You are so transparent.

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
12. We don't even know if that's why the group in Boston booted the guy.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 06:37 PM
Nov 2017

Gil told us one side of the story - that of the guy who got booted. There is no evidence or corroboration for any of it. We know how honest and trustworthy Trump supporters are. It's entirely possible the guy was lying about the whole thing.

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
16. That's right, a link to the disgruntled guy's story.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 10:18 PM
Nov 2017

You certainly never linked to any kind of corroboration of his story. You're still asking us to take this one Trump supporter's word as gospel (so to speak) with zero evidence that he's telling the truth.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
23. I can understand why you definitely don't want your blatantly contradictory stance discussed.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:31 PM
Nov 2017

It's still fun for the rest of us to point and laugh, however.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
19. It's true, he may have been a toxic asshole the entire time...
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 10:11 AM
Nov 2017

and supporting Trump was just the last straw. We don't know, but Gil says we should trust him. A Trump fan.

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