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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:37 PM Nov 2017

Kaitlin Curtice talks about everyday glory and her Native American heritage

From the article:

The glory of God always felt like something far off. God is way up in heaven, and if we’re lucky enough or work hard enough, we can see it. That’s not how it is. It was this shift to wondering if glory was all around and we’re just missing it, to truly seeing and paying attention and noticing things.


To read more:

http://religionnews.com/2017/11/22/kaitlin-curtice-talks-about-everyday-glory-and-her-native-american-heritage/

The glory manifested in all of creation.
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Kaitlin Curtice talks about everyday glory and her Native American heritage (Original Post) guillaumeb Nov 2017 OP
Ain't Nature Grand? MineralMan Nov 2017 #1
"creation" trotsky Nov 2017 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan Nov 2017 #3
Congratulations. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #4
Well, it's good that you did comment on the article MineralMan Nov 2017 #5
Nothing in faith precludes scientific endeavors. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #8
Perhaps they do. trotsky Nov 2017 #9
What do you feel those 51% recognize? eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #10
I guarantee you it's not what you're hoping. n/t trotsky Nov 2017 #11
Secret insight and knowledge on your part? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #12
Nope. trotsky Nov 2017 #13
You don't have other ways of knowing? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #14
I know, I'm crazy outta control! n/t trotsky Nov 2017 #19
You absolute mad man! Lordquinton Nov 2017 #24
You might want to look at the graphic you posted. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #17
Nope, you're confused. trotsky Nov 2017 #18
Add 33 plus 18. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #20
After you've added 33 plus 18, subtract that amount from the sum of 83 and 12. trotsky Nov 2017 #21
However, much as you avoid it, 51% of scientists are religious guillaumeb Nov 2017 #25
Hi, g. trotsky Dec 2017 #26
Do you not understand what "statistically significant" means? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #27
It's true, not every Christian is a creationist like you. trotsky Nov 2017 #6
You never cease to amaze. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #7
So are you or are you not a creationist? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #15
No, I have not. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #16
Easy. trotsky Nov 2017 #22
Taking your post here at face value Lordquinton Nov 2017 #23

MineralMan

(146,321 posts)
1. Ain't Nature Grand?
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 04:19 PM
Nov 2017

Geology, meteorology, botany, biology and physics everywhere you look. And once you begin to understand how it evolved to be and how it all works, what you see it gets more and more amazing. You can see the glory of the complexity of it all and be in wonder at how it all evolved to be what it is.

The closer you look, the more relationships between seemingly disparate things you'll find, too. Why, a guy could spend an entire lifetime studying nature, I think, and just keep right on learning more and more about how it works, how everything relates to other things, and much much more. As wonder gets added to by knowledge, more doors open to better understanding.

It's a wonderful way to spend a life, I think. It's a shame not to learn at least something about all that is going on out there, for sure.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
2. "creation"
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 04:41 PM
Nov 2017

It should be noted that it is merely your personal religious opinion that the universe was "created" by an intelligent entity, and is not supported by any actual evidence at this time.

Response to trotsky (Reply #2)

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
4. Congratulations.
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 05:15 PM
Nov 2017

So you recognized that my expressed opinion was just that. Let me add that my opinion is not intended to be confused with official Christian opinion. It is merely my personal opinion.

MineralMan

(146,321 posts)
5. Well, it's good that you did comment on the article
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 05:22 PM
Nov 2017

at your link. Really, the article said very little about all of that. It wasn't really a very good article, I thought, after reading through it.

But, you made it clear that you believe it's all a "creation." I think that's sad, since there's so much more wonder and "glory" to be found by actually learning and understanding nature. Mere "creation" isn't all that exciting. What's exciting is learning as much as possible about what we see.

Accepting it as a "creation" is easy enough, I suppose, but masks so much that is available to understand. To each his or her own, I suppose, though...

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
8. Nothing in faith precludes scientific endeavors.
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 06:01 PM
Nov 2017

As many scientists have demonstrated by being people of faith as well as scientists. Perhaps they recognize something that some non-theists clearly do not.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
18. Nope, you're confused.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:35 PM
Nov 2017

If you're going to point to theistic scientists as being representative of something, then you need to explain why scientists are so much LESS theistic than the general population. Why is that, do you suppose?

Go.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
21. After you've added 33 plus 18, subtract that amount from the sum of 83 and 12.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:30 PM
Nov 2017

Then explain why they are different.

You'll get to THE point.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
26. Hi, g.
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 09:43 AM
Dec 2017

I haven't avoided that at all.

I posted the graphic showing it.

Seems a very odd way to "avoid" something, to post it, dontcha think?

I posted it to show how LESS common religious belief is among scientists.

Do you understand now?

What do you think that means?

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
27. Do you not understand what "statistically significant" means?
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 09:50 AM
Dec 2017

Because however the aggregate pans out, the difference trotsky described is statistically significant and therefore worthy of exploration. Your refusal to address that seems deliberate. And it speaks volumes.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
16. No, I have not.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 02:38 PM
Nov 2017

But apparently some here feel that this type of tactic passes as legitimate conversation.

For the record, you tell me what the term creationist means. And then explain how my posts support such a characterization.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
22. Easy.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:44 PM
Nov 2017
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define+creationist

cre·a·tion·ist
krēˈāSHənəst/
noun: creationist; plural noun: creationists

1. a person who believes that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account.


Now there are TYPES of creationists - young earth, literal, etc. Not sure exactly which TYPE you are, but you definitely fall under the broad category of "creationist." You believe the universe originated from a specific act of divine creation. QED.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
23. Taking your post here at face value
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 05:28 PM
Nov 2017

That would speak to say that you are and haven't actually taken the stance that you aren't.

For the rest Trotsky provided a definition for you. Plain as day to answer really.

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