and reflect a lot of the dialogue that takes place in this group.

It is a good one.

My motto is "Here I am, cleaning shit off of practically everything."

I got that one from Kurt Vonnegut. Or I would have, if I could read.

So you disagree with Gandhi?

Think about it, Guy...

That'd be breaking Rule #1.

If you start looking into paganism, you'll eventually come across accounts of what actually happened to the pagans. Another PR nightmare for Christianity.

And Christianity appropriated many symbols of the earth-centered religions that it replaced. A way of allowing local cultures to keep some continuity with the past.

Yeah, that's why they did it. The Holy Roman Empire was all about cultural preservation.

and in case you missed it.

And you are welcome to that narrative.

The HRE came in, took over, and made people be Christian or they were killed. Much the same way that Europeans allowed native peoples to keep their culture in North America.

Come on...we aren't going to rewrite history are we?

Like your other narrative explaining how intolerance by Chinese atheists is anything but intolerance because atheists are involved.

And the Chinese thing has been explained to you pretty clearly. Here's a simple question for you to answer in regard to that: Why aren't all Muslims being quashed in China, then?

So that's two questions for you to answer.

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then present it. Otherwise you are just being a relativist or a nihilist, which are awful crimes that theists usually attribute to atheists.

And one shouldn't attribute to the Holy Roman Empire that which was done by the Romans. Though, in fairness I guess, they both have Roman in their name, so it's easy to confuse them.

So, by the logic used by some in this group, that means the whole thing was just fiction, anyhow.

Well wasn't that kind of the conquerors.

that were a part of their empire.

Because the Romans allowed their subject nations to keep their religions and their customs. Christians did not. You know, that whole thing about Charlemagne converting the Allemanni at the point of a sword and what not.

But then again, I am a doddering moron who cannot understand simple turns of phrase, so what do I know.

We're pretending there isn't a difference between the Romans and the Holy Roman Empire. If the Romans did cool things, then that means the HRE did, too. It's simple.

When in the Holy Roman Empire do as the Holy Romans do.

"Who are those poorly dressed louts coming over the hills of Rome?"

Sorry, I mistook this for the Humor Group today. My bad.

Of particular note to this thread is the song "the bloody verdict of Verdun" about the culmination of his campaign against the Saxons where he murdered 4000 Saxons because they refused to convert to Christianity. The whole war was about converting them, so it's not some isolated incident.

Awesome fellows, those Romans.

Oh, wait...

The Roman's didn't have time. It wasn't invented yet.

Answer that if you can, smarty pants!

Never mind. Anyhow, my show is about to start on the History Channel. Thanks for easing my mind.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

Sort of defines the thing, that commandment, I think. Paganism, in one form or another, predates everything. It's the true, natural human religion. It developed naturally, and remains today. Monotheism is simpler, of course. Atheism is the simplest of all. Simple is good.

And it's an insidious manner of destroying culture.

Language is also an important component of culture.

I'm leaning towards poe on this one the deflection was brief and abrupt, attempting to muddy the waters.