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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:40 PM Jan 2018

Non-verbal thinking is common

Visual dreams are one form most people are familiar with. Another is music. I think in music often. I always have. My brain creates music, fully-formed, polyphonic, and original. I can shift into that mode of thought at will. Often, the music is derivative of some standard form, and reminiscent of the work of a familiar composer or period of music. Sometimes its a baroque thing, or even a military march or ragtime piece, but it's always original and unique.

It's a pleasure. No words. Just music. If I try to remember it, it's gone and can't be recreated. I enjoy this type of thinking. It also sometimes even shows up in the background when I read. My wife says, "You're humming again." It's the soundtrack for what I'm reading, I guess.

Thinking without words.

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Non-verbal thinking is common (Original Post) MineralMan Jan 2018 OP
of course it is. Eko Jan 2018 #1
I had this idea when I was a child LiberalLoner Jan 2018 #2
You may have something, there. MineralMan Jan 2018 #4
... Binkie The Clown Jan 2018 #3
Hum a few bars, and I'll fake it... MineralMan Jan 2018 #6
La la la dela boom ba, kachink, kachink, doola. nt Binkie The Clown Jan 2018 #9
Ok how does this deal with religion? PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #5
It's a spin off an earlier discussion about thoughts. MineralMan Jan 2018 #7
About? PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #8
Here's a link: MineralMan Jan 2018 #10
The digging of holes, mostly. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #19
It sounds like what you're doing is a form of meditation. hedda_foil Jan 2018 #11
More like a form of recreation, really. MineralMan Jan 2018 #14
Museums are filled with great works of non verbal thought. Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #12
Very true. MineralMan Jan 2018 #13
I highly reccommend the book edhopper Jan 2018 #15
I'll put that on my list. MineralMan Jan 2018 #16
It is very much a general readers book. edhopper Jan 2018 #17
It still sounds interesting. MineralMan Jan 2018 #18

Eko

(7,315 posts)
1. of course it is.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:47 PM
Jan 2018

Here was my reply to thinking without language. "So how did humans come up with speech if we couldn't think before speech?"

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
2. I had this idea when I was a child
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:50 PM
Jan 2018

That if I listened to music intently enough and with enough concentration, I could learn the deepest unspoken secrets of life, of the universe.

I felt - still feel - that music expresses a truth the spoken word can’t reach. That music is a balm for our souls and we might all go mad without it.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
16. I'll put that on my list.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 11:05 AM
Jan 2018

Right now, I'm studying neuroscience, actually. The web designer I work with has a PhD in that discipline, and we're starting to work on some neuroscience-based website design strategies. I'm his content writer. He's my primary client. So, I'm in the middle of putting myself through a course of study in neuroscience. It has been an interest of mine for a very long time, and I can talk about it OK, but I feel the need to get a better understanding of the field, so I can contribute to the discussion on a different level.

The book you mention sounds interesting, but not for that reason, although I might find some useful information there in that regard, as well.

Thanks.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
18. It still sounds interesting.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 11:17 AM
Jan 2018

I've read a lot about music and the brain, actually, over the years. I've always been interested in why we like specific harmonies, and how they influence our moods and other things. Even the scales we use are fascinating, really, and how those particular intervals became standardized is also an interesting thing to look at.

The relationship of music to physics, too, is another fascinating thing to examine. The harmonic series produced by different shapes and forms of musical instruments, too, is a thing to study.

So much to learn. So much to understand. So little time.

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