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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:52 PM Jan 2018

When Deities Mate with Humans

It happens, you know. The Greek and Roman gods occasionally came down from the heights to copulate with humans. The results varied, and it caused some confusion. When human males, however boinked a female goddess, no good ever came from that, for some reason. It was not a good idea.

In the Judeo/Christian heavens, the Holy Spirit supposedly "came over" a human woman and that ended up with a third god in the godhead. And then there were the Nephelim, the product of fallen angels, which are minor goddish sorts of entities. The result was giants who are briefly mentioned in the Old Testament. What happened to those, however, I do not know. Maybe their distant relatives are basketball players and such. Who can say?

Hindus tell a tale of Shiva mating with a human woman, Madhura. That worked out poorly, since jealous Parvati turned the human into a frog. 12 years later, Madhura resumed human form and gave birth to Indrajit. This story is disputed by some Hindus, so who knows.

My advice: If you are approached for sex with a deity, just say "NO!" And remember, No is No.

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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. Yah. There are similarities, are there not?
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 02:02 PM
Jan 2018

But, that flaying business? I'm not sure I'd want to be a flayed deity.

To each his or her own, I suppose, though.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
5. To me, since he is flayed,
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 02:03 PM
Jan 2018

he has no skin. He is neither white, nor black, nor brown, nor any other color. Thus to me (s)he represents all of humanity.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
7. Deities mating with humans
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 02:14 PM
Jan 2018

Such a ludicrous and outrageous concept. Was their LSD when these stories were told? I saw a Discovery Channel Show about how ergot grew on wheat during a blight in, I believe, 17th century France. They were killing people for being werewolves. Ergot is a natural source of LSD. Always thought it was very funny that people tripping were killing people because they were believed to be werewolves.

As far as God mating with Mary, why would God require a virgin? He supposedly created man and nature. Men fantasize about virgins. Why would God care? Is really just a way for humans to elevate Jesus to a deity. I can picture Jesus saying "I am just a simple carpenter. A common man. My mother was a virgin when I was born, but other than that I am just like all of you."

Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. Humans thought: "We say his mother was virgin and BINGO its a Miracle!"

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
9. God needed a virgin because He did some scatterbrained things
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 02:53 PM
Jan 2018

Take the creation story in Genesis 1. First he made outer space. Then he made the Earth. Next he made all the lower animals, in both male and female versions. On day 6 he made one human. On Day 7 he rested and, according to all the tee shirts, on Day 8 he made all the fun stuff.

Being that he knew you needed both male and female of any species to get more of them why wouldn’t he have made Eve on Day 6, and being that he made Adam out of dirt why did he have to part Adam out to get the starting material for her?

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
10. Well, see, God works in mysterious ways,
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 03:44 PM
Jan 2018

His wonders to perform.

Or so the saying goes...You don't have the proper security clearance for that secret information.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
8. ?Book of Enoch, fallen angels mate with human women, children are Nephalim?
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 02:20 PM
Jan 2018

This a book not put in biblical canon.

Still find this all strange and rather grotesque. First heard about this story from shows on the old series Ancient Aliens. But now there's a self-proclaimed biblical prophet (?Tim Horn?, also has own show on youtube) who pontificates periodically on the Jim Bakker show. Which would seem to mean this stuff has been mainstreamed into part of odd-ball Evangelicalism.

I think Nephalim are mentioned once in the approved canon as having some part in causing God's anger that led to Noah building the ark.

I never heard any of this stuff when I was in SoBaptist Sunday School classes in the 40s and 50s!

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
11. There are many, many writings that were not included in the Canon.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 03:47 PM
Jan 2018

All kinds of weird stories that contradict the weird stories in the writings that were included. It is not for us to know why. Just accept what they tell you. Otherwise you'll get all confused and stuff. Just keep your awkward questions to yourself. That's what my Sunday School teacher told me.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
13. When I was in jr hi, substitute SS teacher told us John the Baptist wrote the book of John
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 06:28 PM
Jan 2018

When I said 'But he's killed in the beginning of the book!', she said 'I know. Isn't it wonderful? He saw it all in prophecy!'

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
16. It's a lot of uninformed religious people out there.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 11:19 AM
Jan 2018

I'd call them stupid, but that wouldn't be kind.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
17. She was a very nice woman, just had a jumble of bits of bible to cobble together
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 11:52 AM
Jan 2018

When I was a kid 'prophecy' was a very vague, ill-defined concept as mentioned in SS.. It was quite possible someone could write a whole book and correctly give the history of the next 30 or so years. It was just in this specific instance it didn't make sense to a jr hi kid who remembered her SS school lessons about John the Baptist.

Permanut

(5,610 posts)
12. Too late, MineralMan..
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 04:29 PM
Jan 2018

But it does help to explain why I can leap tall buildings with a single bound, I am stronger than a locomotive, I can change the course of rivers, and I can bend steel in my bare hands. Always wondered where that stuff came from. I didn't want everyone to know, so I spent 40 years as a mild mannered accountant for a great metropolitan hospital.

More to the point, there are very few original ideas in the Bible.

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
14. Oh, come on. Some things make perfect sense.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 06:32 PM
Jan 2018

"Hindus tell a tale of Shiva mating with a human woman, Madhura. That worked out poorly, since jealous Parvati turned the human into a frog. 12 years later, Madhura resumed human form and gave birth to Indrajit. This story is disputed by some Hindus, so who knows."

This happens ALL the time, how can you deny it?

Yes, some Hindus do, but they're just being silly.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
15. You're forgetting about the Super Bowl.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 07:09 PM
Jan 2018

You write:

When human males, however boinked a female goddess, no good ever came from that, for some reason. It was not a good idea.


Consider that the human prince Anchises and the goddess Venus were the parents of Aeneas. Aeneas fled from the destruction of Troy and ended up settling in Italy. His descendants, Romulus and Remus, founded Rome. Rome's great contributions to civilization included Roman numerals. Roman numerals are, as we all know, essential to the Super Bowl.

I think you're just pouting because the Vikings got clobbered.
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