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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 11:57 AM Jan 2018

There Seem to Be Some Information Gaps Here about the Human Brain

Understanding neuroscience thoroughly is not a simple matter, but Wikipedia has an excellent introductory article on the brain, with hundreds of links leading to additional information. The link below is an excellent way to learn the basics about the brain, its anatomy, and its functions. Probably everyone who writes anything about the brain should probably have at least that information, to avoid making errors. From there, it's very informative to branch out, using the links in the article, to learn more about neuroscience and the brain. One doesn't need a PhD. in Neuroscience to gain a good understanding of this most important organ of the human body. I highly recommend this informative resource:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_brain

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There Seem to Be Some Information Gaps Here about the Human Brain (Original Post) MineralMan Jan 2018 OP
Some people really believe consciousness exists outside the brain. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2018 #1
Science has learned a great deal about the brain since MineralMan Jan 2018 #2
My point is I think people generally understand the mind is not separate from the brain. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2018 #3
I think you're right. MineralMan Jan 2018 #4
Life is valuable because it is perishable. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2018 #5
Well, I certainly respect my life even more, since I know it is a fleeting thing. MineralMan Jan 2018 #6
Depends. Igel Jan 2018 #10
Neurologist Steven Novella and physicist Sean Carroll debate "Death is not Final" longship Jan 2018 #7
Novella is a machine. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2018 #8
His podcast hasn't missed a week in over eleven years!! longship Jan 2018 #9

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
1. Some people really believe consciousness exists outside the brain.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 12:05 PM
Jan 2018

Yet some of these people wear helmets when riding their bikes. Weird, innit?

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
2. Science has learned a great deal about the brain since
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 12:10 PM
Jan 2018

old Descartes wrote about dualism. Despite his genius, the brain was still an enormous mystery during his lifetime. Nothing really was known about how it functioned. We know a great deal more now, right down to the cellular level and beyond. We're learning more every year. Dualism is no longer how science looks at the mind, which is explainable through brain function alone.

Now, I'm not claiming that reading that Wikipedia article will transform anyone into a neuroscientist. But, it's a pretty good basic introduction to the subject, and enough time spent exploring links will lead the curious, intelligent person to a very good understanding.

It's frustrating, at times, when people write about things without even a basic knowledge of the topic they're addressing. It's so easy, now, to learn the basics of anything, that there's little excuse for failing to do so, I think.

As for those helmet-wearers, everyone knows that a serious brain injury can end one's life, or reduce a person to life in a vegetative state. Whether or not one believes in dualism, using due caution is always a wise choice.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
3. My point is I think people generally understand the mind is not separate from the brain.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 12:26 PM
Jan 2018

They wear helmets. They worry about their kids playing football. They understand brain damage is something to be vigorously avoided.

I suspect they cling to dualism despite this knowledge because an afterlife would very much depend on a consciousness separate from the physical body. It's a matter of cognitive dissonance.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. I think you're right.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 12:59 PM
Jan 2018

I believe we instinctively know where the mind is, but, as you say, many people need to believe that their consciousness goes on after death. I understand that, of course, but the knowledge that it does not makes life far more interesting and intensifies the experience of life, it seems to me.

I long ago decided that it was enough. I didn't need any assurance of continuance.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
5. Life is valuable because it is perishable.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 01:45 PM
Jan 2018

Odd then that there are many who will say we cannot have respect for life if we accept it as a tenuous, temporary alignment of mere matter and energy. More fool them, I say.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
6. Well, I certainly respect my life even more, since I know it is a fleeting thing.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 01:48 PM
Jan 2018

I respect yours more, too. We get a shot at doing stuff, learning stuff, exploring stuff, sharing stuff. We should focus on that shot and take as much advantage of it as we can, I believe.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
10. Depends.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 08:00 PM
Jan 2018

There are views of the afterlife that does not presuppose this. If you have some sort of "soul" or life-force, yeah. Otherwise, not so much.

longship

(40,416 posts)
7. Neurologist Steven Novella and physicist Sean Carroll debate "Death is not Final"
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 01:50 PM
Jan 2018

with Eben Alexander and Ron Moody who take the affirmative side.

Novella is a clinical neurologist at Yale and host of The Skeptic's Guide to the Universe podcast (which has not missed a weekly upload in over 11 years). Sean Carroll is a theoretical particle physicist at CalTech.

This is a great debate on dualism.


Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
8. Novella is a machine.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 03:24 PM
Jan 2018

A biological machine, of course, but a machine nonetheless. How he finds time for a faculty position at Yale, a weekly podcast with serious research requirements, and all the debates and speaking gigs he does is beyond me. I mean, we Connecticutians are an energetic bunch, but he's just ridiculous.

longship

(40,416 posts)
9. His podcast hasn't missed a week in over eleven years!!
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:25 PM
Jan 2018

And he does 100% of the post production himself! Every Saturday morning. Nearly 90 minutes long. Every damned week!

His thrice weekly Blog posts on Neurologica, and those on Science-Based Medicine Blog.

And he does the Science or Fiction quiz nearly every week for SGU, which has to take some serious effort. It's the most popular part of the podcast, with good reason. It's fun! But I wouldn't wish coming up with it weekly on my worst enemy. Steve just does it, over and over and over again. Well over 600 times so far.

He is, indeed, a machine.

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