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NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 01:57 PM Jan 2018

These Christians Have No Idea Whats Wrong With Their Football Pregame Prayers

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2018/01/25/these-christians-have-no-idea-whats-wrong-with-their-football-pregame-prayers/




These Christians Have No Idea What’s Wrong With Their Football Pregame Prayers
January 25, 2018 by Hemant Mehta

An employee of the Bradley County School District in Tennessee recently took cellphone video of a student leading a prayer over the loudspeaker before a football game. That video was then sent to the Freedom From Religion Foundation. Because the practice is illegal — it’s considered an endorsement of religion — FFRF sent a letter to the District explaining the violation and law and urging them to put a stop to the practice before a lawsuit has to be filed.

All of that sounds pretty typical. School district violates the law, FFRF steps in and explains the issue, school district gets to choose how to proceed. Even the District’s lawyer’s response was what you’d expect.

The school system’s attorney would not say what will change, but he gave Channel 3 the following statement:

“The Board of Education understands the significance of student’s religious liberties. We will be working with board members, system administrators and school leaders to address these issues.” — Scott Bennett, Attorney for Bradley County Schools.

Bennett formally responded to Freedom From Religion saying he understands the law and plans to discuss the issue with the school board. A spokesperson for the group says he is satisfied with that response at this time.


That’s a polite way for the lawyer to say, “I’ll get these fools in order so they don’t get sued.”

Over the weekend, however, one of the students who doesn’t understand the law (but loves him some Jesus) organized a prayer on the football field on behalf of the community.
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These Christians Have No Idea Whats Wrong With Their Football Pregame Prayers (Original Post) NeoGreen Jan 2018 OP
Matthew 6 : 5-6 Mariana Jan 2018 #1
How dare you bring the supposed words of Jesus into this? MineralMan Jan 2018 #3
I'm afraid I'm not very good at interpreting clearly written prose Mariana Jan 2018 #4
Prehaps this is the new definition for... NeoGreen Jan 2018 #5
Nobody Is. But Holy Spirit-Inspired Discernment MineralMan Jan 2018 #7
Literalist! Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #8
Well said...praying in front of everyone else may ... SWBTATTReg Jan 2018 #2
I'll give the kids the benefit of the doubt. Mariana Jan 2018 #6
You're absolutely right! SWBTATTReg Jan 2018 #9

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
1. Matthew 6 : 5-6
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 02:42 PM
Jan 2018

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

The only reason to insist on praying in the football stadium in front of everybody is to be seen praying in the football stadium in front of everybody. If it was really about chatting to their god, it wouldn't matter a bit if they had to do it privately or discreetly. It's such a shame that adults are encouraging these nice Christian kids to disobey the direct instructions of their Saviour.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
3. How dare you bring the supposed words of Jesus into this?
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 03:15 PM
Jan 2018

The Book of Matthew cannot be properly understood by anyone but a Christian. What Jesus (reportedly) said only applies to certain situations, you see. He said nothing about football games, which are a sacred Christian sacrament of violence and mayhem.

You do not properly discern the true meaning of the words (reportedly) spoken by Jesus, because you do not have the Holy Spirit indwelling your soul. Besides, as Paul wrote, "I do not suffer a woman to teach."

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
4. I'm afraid I'm not very good at interpreting clearly written prose
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 03:45 PM
Jan 2018

in such a way as to conclude that it means the opposite of what it actually says.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
7. Nobody Is. But Holy Spirit-Inspired Discernment
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:12 PM
Jan 2018

would set you straight, I understand. It apparently allows any sort of changes in the words to meet whatever needs you have.

SWBTATTReg

(22,130 posts)
2. Well said...praying in front of everyone else may ...
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 02:56 PM
Jan 2018

offend, and from the proverb provided, God too. Hypocrites.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
6. I'll give the kids the benefit of the doubt.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:00 PM
Jan 2018

Religion is a dandy way to manipulate people, and kids are especially susceptible. They've been told all their lives, by adults they trust, that all this stuff is true, and that God wants them to do this thing and that thing, and that it will go very badly for them if they don't do what God wants. After all that, how hard would it be to convince them that God wants them to pray ostentatiously in the football stadium in front of everybody?

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