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NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 09:03 AM Jan 2018

Ken Ham: Bill Nyes Show Is Inappropriate for Kids Because It Teaches Science

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2018/01/28/ken-ham-bill-nyes-show-is-inappropriate-for-kids-because-it-teaches-science/




Ken Ham: Bill Nye’s Show Is Inappropriate for Kids Because It Teaches Science
January 28, 2018 by Hemant Mehta

Creationist Ken Ham says that the just-released season two of Bill Nye Saves the World on Netflix is “not appropriate for children” because… it teaches science.

According to two staff members for Answers in Genesis:

There is not much new to say, except to point out again that there is some foul, inappropriate, and suggestive language, especially in the episode on STDs and superbugs (which also makes the misleading and erroneous claim that antibiotic resistance in bacteria is an example of evolution — meaning, of course, millions-of-years, molecules-to-man evolution — in action). The episode on mass extinctions, predictably, emphasizes a naturalistic view of earth’s history, including millions of years and biological evolution.

This show is certainly not a show for children. Although some observational science is included, the bulk of the show is dedicated to entertainment and pushing a secular worldview, rather than teaching science.


They say the show talks about antibiotic resistance in bacteria and mass extinctions… yet somehow doesn’t teach science. Because, in Ken Ham’s world, it’s not science unless it references a giant Ark and a talking snake.
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Ken Ham: Bill Nyes Show Is Inappropriate for Kids Because It Teaches Science (Original Post) NeoGreen Jan 2018 OP
I would love to see a show called "Ken Ham: The Science Guy"... ExciteBike66 Jan 2018 #1
Ken is an authority on this science stuff. Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #2
Appreciate the feedback, Ken ejbr Jan 2018 #3
Ken Ham, the Creationist Jebus Guy, Speaks MineralMan Jan 2018 #4
I encourage Ken to cease taking any antibiotics or medications at all... Moostache Jan 2018 #5
Is Ken getting enough oxygen? MrScorpio Jan 2018 #6
Ken Ham can have a show called "Ham's Scams" Dread Pirate Roberts Jan 2018 #7
So sad how the man's ignorance shines so strongly when he attacks science education with his Nitram Jan 2018 #8
.... trusty elf Jan 2018 #9
Abso-fucking-brilliant!!! longship Jan 2018 #10
Oh oh! PatrickforO Jan 2018 #14
For some reason the 🦒 running on the bow sends me into stitches GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #17
Teaching science is very inappropriate for kids, also math, reading, writing, IronLionZion Jan 2018 #11
Idiots love to show us how stupid they really are....they seem to take pride in it Ferrets are Cool Jan 2018 #12
Once again, DU makes me run to the internet (created by the gods): PGIC erronis Jan 2018 #18
Hi erronis Ferrets are Cool Jan 2018 #33
GeeeWhizz,,,, next thang u know is Cryptoad Jan 2018 #13
I want to see a primetime debate. Soxfan58 Jan 2018 #15
Bill Nye already did debate Ham... Archae Jan 2018 #22
Ken Ham can't win with facts so he has to win by trying to silence the opposition Johonny Jan 2018 #16
Ken Ham, Remember dinosours, or should I say Jesus horses.. Old Vet Jan 2018 #19
Oh, good! Fritz Walter Jan 2018 #20
And Ken Ham is threadworthy/attentionworthy why? ananda Jan 2018 #21
Ignore them at your (and everyone else's) peril... NeoGreen Jan 2018 #23
This thread is now trending on DU's Home page. MineralMan Jan 2018 #24
Better tune in to Ken Ham Turbineguy Jan 2018 #25
And I think Ken Ham is inappropriate Docreed2003 Jan 2018 #26
Kids learning stuff MFM008 Jan 2018 #27
Can't have that. They might ask questions. MineralMan Jan 2018 #28
Mr. Wizard be damned. Sneederbunk Jan 2018 #29
How do you know Ken Ham said Nye's show was inappropriate? Act_of_Reparation Jan 2018 #30
++++ The Polack MSgt Jan 2018 #32
Ken Ham also believes the world is flat Gothmog Jan 2018 #31
Ken Ham actually joined DU at one point.. opiate69 Feb 2018 #34

Voltaire2

(13,061 posts)
2. Ken is an authority on this science stuff.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 09:18 AM
Jan 2018

Or at least that is what I’ve learned here in this forum: that right wing religious bigots are authoritative sources and anyone who says different is a religious bigot.

Besides you can’t prove the earth isn’t 5000 years old. In fact you can’t really prove that the earth exists at all.

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
3. Appreciate the feedback, Ken
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 09:56 AM
Jan 2018

We will place that in the circular file, since science is for secularphiles

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
5. I encourage Ken to cease taking any antibiotics or medications at all...
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 10:08 AM
Jan 2018

He is of advancing age and should DEFINITELY rely solely on prayer and abstain from all modern "science" to sustain himself....he should be gone by summer then...especially if he gets the flu this season.

Dread Pirate Roberts

(1,896 posts)
7. Ken Ham can have a show called "Ham's Scams"
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 10:11 AM
Jan 2018

He can teach kids how to sucker people into spending their money at the Creation Museum or convince a financially strapped local government to spend scarce resources to give him millions of dollars in tax incentives and subsidies. Now THAT would be useful, wouldn't it?

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
8. So sad how the man's ignorance shines so strongly when he attacks science education with his
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 10:15 AM
Jan 2018

silly little "arguments."

longship

(40,416 posts)
10. Abso-fucking-brilliant!!!
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 10:27 AM
Jan 2018

That is perfection about Ken Ham.

Off the ends of the world with him!!!! Him and his idiocy!

IronLionZion

(45,453 posts)
11. Teaching science is very inappropriate for kids, also math, reading, writing,
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 10:36 AM
Jan 2018

and anything useful that helps them learn how the world works or helps them get jobs as adults.

Better to focus on religion, creationism, and guns. Whew, it's a good thing western culture is intellectually superior to those middle eastern countries that send kids to madrassahs.

They want to keep people uneducated, unemployed, and easily controlled.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
12. Idiots love to show us how stupid they really are....they seem to take pride in it
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 10:42 AM
Jan 2018

Take the PGIC, for instance.

erronis

(15,303 posts)
18. Once again, DU makes me run to the internet (created by the gods): PGIC
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 11:16 AM
Jan 2018

PGIC - lots of good later reading material, such as "Patient Global Impression of Change" which seems rather dense for this AMs reading.

Perhaps the "Pussy Grabber In Chief" is more appropriate? Altho I don't know that dump is smart enough to be anti-science or pro-Ham.

Yes, I also love ferrets but my S.O. won't let me have them. They're a hoot around cats and dogs, of which we have plenty.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
33. Hi erronis
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 07:29 PM
Jan 2018

yes, PGIC is the latter. I wont refer to him by his real name...I cant stand it coming from my lips.

Ferrets are great, but not for everyone. I WISH so much that they were not sold in pet stores. They are often an impulse buy and when people find out that they require LOTS of attention and care, they want to get rid of them. That is why we have rescued more than 20 of them over the years. Yes, that means we have almost 30 graves around the edge of our yard, each with its own marker.
People think that cats are the most curious creature, but they have NOTHING on ferrets.
Take care my friend,

DJ

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
13. GeeeWhizz,,,, next thang u know is
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 10:49 AM
Jan 2018

States will outlaw teaching Critical Thinking!,,,,,,
OOOO,,, wait a minute they have already done that,,,,

nevermind

Soxfan58

(3,479 posts)
15. I want to see a primetime debate.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 10:50 AM
Jan 2018

Bill Nye vs Ken Ham, fact vs fiction, the battle of the six letter names.

Archae

(46,335 posts)
22. Bill Nye already did debate Ham...
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 11:57 AM
Jan 2018

Ham showed just how much of blithering idiot he is.

It is 2 1/2 hours long.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
16. Ken Ham can't win with facts so he has to win by trying to silence the opposition
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 10:56 AM
Jan 2018

He's just a scam artist. A nobody that's somebody because he latched onto a gravy train of anti-science in America.

NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)
23. Ignore them at your (and everyone else's) peril...
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 11:59 AM
Jan 2018

...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Theocracy

Ignoring them is not a good idea.

His philosophy is part and parcel of the rise and threat of the growing entrenchment of American Theocracy.

They should be exposed and challenged at every instance.

Docreed2003

(16,863 posts)
26. And I think Ken Ham is inappropriate
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 12:34 PM
Jan 2018

For his ridiculous creation museum and the fact they warp kids minds suggesting that dinosaurs hung out on Noah’s ark.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
34. Ken Ham actually joined DU at one point..
Thu Feb 1, 2018, 12:24 AM
Feb 2018

WarrenDeMontague was on MIRT at the time and wrote one of the best PPR messages in recorded history for him!

(The link to the profile isn't working anymore, but here's the text


Mr. Ham, you are a manufacturer of misinformation, a peddler of falsitude, a veritable Iron Chef of unmitigated bullshit. You should be ashamed of yourself, sir. Not for being wrong- no, far better and brighter folks than you have been that- but for stubbornly and willfully plugging your ears to logic, critical thinking, and literally mountains of objective scientific evidence-- even as you use the products of science, reason and critical thought- like, oh, computers, electricity, and cheesy animatronic museum exhibits- to further misinform and de-educate. Im sorry that reality- actual, objective reality- is so in conflict with whatever 2 dimensional sunday school cartoon youve got playing on a loop in your head. The truth is, however, at the end of the day you are WRONG. Wrong on the facts. Heres a clue: Many good people are perfectly able to reconcile their theology with proven Scientific fact. If you cant, one of those things is logically wrong. And its not the science.
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