Religion
Related: About this forumThere are 13 Individual Groups on DU in the Religion and Spirituality Topic.
Almost all of them are protected groups, designed to allow people to discuss a particular faith or belief system without being subject to posts that are intolerant of that faith or belief system. In their wisdom, the administrators of DU set that up so that people could discuss sensitive topics in peace.
There is also one Group, simply called Religion, which is there to provide a place where everyone can discuss the subject of Religion, and from any perspective. It is not a protected group, as people reading this post almost certainly know.
Protected Groups can, if they choose, block individuals from posting in that group. Not all groups have blocked members listed, but many do, and anyone can look at that list by clicking the About this Group tab. Typically, group moderators block only those individuals who have somehow violated the purpose of the group or who have attacked members or the subject of the group's focus.
Anyone, however, including blocked individuals can read the posts in any group. That policy is in keeping with DU's principle of transparency. Anyone can also alert on posts in any group, including protected groups, and send a post to a jury. That is because the admins of DU think that all posts on DU should meet the site's community standards and TOS.
Given the protected status of many groups, and the ability of those groups to block individuals from participating in discussions, the common practice on DU is to refrain from re-posting posts and replies from protected groups to other forums or groups on DU. Privacy is the issue. For example, there is a protected group, Mental Health Support, that exists to be a place where people can discuss personal challenges and problems with others. Often, people post very personal accounts there. If some DUer copied and pasted such posts into other forums or groups, it would be a serious violation of privacy. That would be unconscionably rude.
Common courtesy would seem to dictate that everyone should respect the protected nature of protected groups. While there is no specific prohibition against re-posting things from such groups in the DU TOS, that common courtesy should be observed, in my opinion. That, perhaps, is especially true if a person who is blocked in such a protected group re-posts things from that group. Again, that is my opinion, and does not represent any statement of rules on DU. I am not an administrator here.
And that's what I have to say about that on this Sunday morning. Now, I have to go move 6" of snow from my driveway and walks to somewhere out of the way.
gibraltar72
(7,506 posts)folklore and superstition.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Most were petitioned for by people who wanted such a group. I see no reason why they should not exist. I don't visit most of them, since their topics aren't of interest to me. But why shouldn't they exist? I can't think of any reason at all for that.
SWBTATTReg
(22,130 posts)clarifying for me some of these things. I knew that there were some rules etc. in place, but didn't know specifics.
Snow? Wow, it seems like you've been moving and shoveling snow all winter long (I've seen several of your posts and they referred to your snow removal duties in those posts too).
Hopefully the snow is lightweight, easy to shovel or toss aside (with no winds to contend with), and your driveway short!
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)My driveway is 24' wide and 60' long. It's a double driveway, shared with my neighbor. I do both sides. I also do three houses worth of city sidewalks, since those neighbors don't have snowblowers. For my own convenience, I blow off the snow on the street, 8' out from the curb, the full width of my lot. That way, I don't have a huge pile of snow at the end of the driveway after the snowplow goes by. There's some hand shoveling, too, but not too much.
With today's 6" of snow, the whole job took only about an hour. That's typical, and gets done five or six times in an average year. It's not that big a deal, really, as long as you have a good snowblower. At 72 years of age, I'm a little tired, but not bad.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)would suggest that people refrain from broad brush attacks designed to frame any particular group of people as a problem, or as the problem.
And we all know that anyone who looks at the DU site can view every post. One does not have to be a member to read, only to post and respond.
Voltaire2
(13,051 posts)And reposting them was a despicable thing to do.
Pope George Ringo II
(1,896 posts)There are those who suffer from the delusion that they don't even have to scrape together the basic honesty and decency to allow differing philosophies to so much as define themselves. Respecting boundaries like protected groups is asking for a level of integrity which is at least one step up the ladder from that bare minimum.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I'm not sure it will have any effect, but there it is.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)But I understand the motivation, and the desire of some few to suppress actual dialogue here.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)You're the one who considers a statement in a protected group for atheists and agnostics that some religious people are delusional to be some sort of actionable attack on religious people. It's not something I would say, but it's a pretty common statement about religion. Some think that belief in invisible entities that have no evidence of existence is a delusion. That can certainly be argued, in fact. I prefer to think that people who believe in such entities are simply uninformed and would benefit from additional education. But, that's just my opinion, just as is the opinion that religious belief constitutes delusional thinking is someone else's opinion.
Opinions are what they are. When they are expressed in some place that has limited membership, I don't bother with them. I actually don't post in the Atheists and Agnostics group. I could, because I am not blocked from doing so by the members of that group. I simply don't bother with writing things in places that already agree with those things.
Dialogue. It's a good thing, particlularly in open forums like the Religion Group. There's a lot of it going on here. Honest dialog is a good thing. I approve of it, generally. All dialog, however, is not honest. I disapprove of dishonest dialog, generally.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And honest dialogue would be a good thing.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)But your response avoids what I said. Revealing and defensive on your part?
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)But you might sense some profit in fomenting the idea that it can be. Pretending to be the victim usually doesn't work around here though.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Both involve speaking, but that is all.