Religion

DetlefK

(16,423 posts) Mon Mar 12, 2018, 09:49 AM Mar 2018

Challenge: An insane person claims to be God. Prove that he's not.

You meet a stranger.

He claims that he's God.

How can you prove that he's actually not God?

"Are you omnipotent?" - "Yes, I just choose to be not right now."

"Are you omniscient?" - "Yes, I just choose to be not right now."

"Ha! You cannot be God! I tricked you!" - "Oh, I am God. I knew that you tricked me. I work in mysterious ways."

"Ha! You are afraid! God wouldn't be afraid!" - "I am afraid because I allowed myself to be afraid."
"Then stop being afraid." - "No, I don't want to."

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Challenge: An insane person claims to be God. Prove that he's not. (Original Post) DetlefK Mar 2018 OP

"Prove to me that you're no fool - Walk across my swimming pool" MineralMan Mar 2018 #1

My second favorite tune in "Jesus Christ Superstar" rock Mar 2018 #11

I have many favorites. MineralMan Mar 2018 #20

Tell them to shoot themselves in the head mikeysnot Mar 2018 #2

Luke 4:12 Act_of_Reparation Mar 2018 #4

GBH mikeysnot Mar 2018 #8

How quickly will existence defenders... NeoGreen Mar 2018 #3

Proving a negative is a practicable impossibility. Doodley Mar 2018 #9

BOOM, 24 minutes - thats how quickly! Lol pnwest Mar 2018 #16

Wow that was fast... NeoGreen Mar 2018 #17

Because they know there is no evidence of God. Doodley Mar 2018 #22

I Think everyone should claim to be a God, base a religion on it and be tax exempt. njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #5

Well, some religionists claim that atheists think they are gods. MineralMan Mar 2018 #6

A big Rock zipplewrath Mar 2018 #7

"Yes. See that big rock over there? I made that." DetlefK Mar 2018 #12

So God can't do anything? zipplewrath Mar 2018 #18

He can do anything. He can even do things he cannot do. DetlefK Mar 2018 #19

The insane person could claim he was Santa Clause. I couldn't disprove that either. Doodley Mar 2018 #10

psst--I think that's the point Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #13

It really can't be overstated how much of a problem this is for any revealed religion. trotsky Mar 2018 #14

No proof needed PJMcK Mar 2018 #15

Muse about what your ides of "God" is and why you believe this. Decided whether or not they meet thi uppityperson Mar 2018 #21

David Icke claimed he was the son of God. Doodley Mar 2018 #23

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)

1. "Prove to me that you're no fool - Walk across my swimming pool"

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 09:59 AM

Mar 2018

rock

(13,218 posts)

11. My second favorite tune in "Jesus Christ Superstar"

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:45 AM

Mar 2018

And the title song is my favorite!

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)

20. I have many favorites.

Reply to rock (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 12:27 PM

Mar 2018

As usual, sometime around Easter, my wife and I will pop the movie DVD in the player and watch it again. We went to a stage production here in St. Paul that was the last time Ted Neeley played the Jesus role. While he could no longer nail the high notes, which were dubbed in from tape, it was still worth seeing on stage.

mikeysnot

(4,757 posts)

2. Tell them to shoot themselves in the head

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:14 AM

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and then come back to life....

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)

4. Luke 4:12

Reply to mikeysnot (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:17 AM

Mar 2018

"Do not put the Lord your God to the test."

Wouldn't be fair to hold new god to a stricter standard than regular god.

mikeysnot

(4,757 posts)

8. GBH

Reply to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:35 AM

Mar 2018

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NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)

3. How quickly will existence defenders...

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:15 AM

Mar 2018

...claim that proving a negative is a practicable impossibility?

Doodley

(9,099 posts)

9. Proving a negative is a practicable impossibility.

Reply to NeoGreen (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:39 AM

Mar 2018

pnwest

(3,266 posts)

16. BOOM, 24 minutes - thats how quickly! Lol

Reply to Doodley (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 11:14 AM

Mar 2018

NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)

17. Wow that was fast...

Reply to pnwest (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 11:17 AM

Mar 2018

...now why don't existence defenders use that logic when they tell Atheists to prove god doesn't exist?

Hmmmm...

Doodley

(9,099 posts)

22. Because they know there is no evidence of God.

Reply to NeoGreen (Reply #17)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 12:40 PM

Mar 2018

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)

5. I Think everyone should claim to be a God, base a religion on it and be tax exempt.

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:22 AM

Mar 2018

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)

6. Well, some religionists claim that atheists think they are gods.

Reply to njhoneybadger (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:27 AM

Mar 2018

I've seen that written more times than I can count.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)

7. A big Rock

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:34 AM

Mar 2018

Ask him if he can make a rock so big that he can't lift it.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)

12. "Yes. See that big rock over there? I made that."

Reply to zipplewrath (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:46 AM

Mar 2018

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)

18. So God can't do anything?

Reply to DetlefK (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 11:23 AM

Mar 2018

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)

19. He can do anything. He can even do things he cannot do.

Reply to zipplewrath (Reply #18)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 11:24 AM

Mar 2018

Doodley

(9,099 posts)

10. The insane person could claim he was Santa Clause. I couldn't disprove that either.

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:43 AM

Mar 2018

It is for him to provide the proof.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,925 posts)

13. psst--I think that's the point

Reply to Doodley (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:48 AM

Mar 2018

Burden of proof doesn't lie with atheists and atheism isn't a belief system

trotsky

(49,533 posts)

14. It really can't be overstated how much of a problem this is for any revealed religion.

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 11:09 AM

Mar 2018

And it doesn't even need to go so far as someone claiming to *be* god - it can just be someone who claims to have spoken with god. Since the entire foundation of a revealed religion such as Christianity or Islam rests upon a single human being having received information directly from god, adherents of those religions in particular MUST allow for the possibility of it happening again. Worse, they have no clear way of disproving such a claim, since in each case the person was revealed NEW information that upended the "old order" of things. That was kind of the point in starting the new religion!

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)

15. No proof needed

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 11:13 AM

Mar 2018

Just walk away.

I can't fix insanity. I'm not a god.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)

21. Muse about what your ides of "God" is and why you believe this. Decided whether or not they meet thi

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 12:35 PM

Mar 2018

of "God" and what meaning this has for you. Seek help for them if they are a or in danger or move on if not because decent people take care of each other. Learn from everyone.There is no need to prove anything.

Doodley

(9,099 posts)

23. David Icke claimed he was the son of God.

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 12:46 PM

Mar 2018

He toured TV studios in the UK wearing a turquoise jump suit claiming he was the chosen one, and everyone laughed at him.

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