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edcantor

(325 posts)
Fri May 18, 2012, 09:45 AM May 2012

Obama and Romney offer differing views of God

People always ask, “What would Jesus do?,” but in America today, it’s impossible to know. And that’s because there are (at least) two prevailing views of God at work in our public and political conversation. It would not be an exaggeration to say that when you pull the lever this November, you will not just be voting for president. You will be saying what you believe about God.

Do you believe in a God who protects the individual’s freedoms against the encroachments of the state? Who answers personal prayers and who intervenes, as he did for Paul on the Road to Damascus, to make believers out of skeptics and heretics? This God rewards his favorite sons and daughters with prosperity, and he bestows blessings, to paraphrase the aphorism, on those who help themselves.


Or do you believe in a God whose first priority is to care for the weak and the helpless, who teaches people to do unto others as they would have others do unto them? This is the collectivist God of the Hebrew Bible, who sees humanity organized into tribes and families of “brothers and sisters” who must work together to discern and follow his will.

With their rhetoric, Mitt Romney and President Obama are forcing voters to consider this choice. And as Occupy movement activists prepare to protest income inequality, among other issues, at the Group of 8 summit in Camp David, Md., and the NATO gathering in Chicago this weekend, the dilemma is far from academic.


More:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/obama-and-romney-offer-differing-views-of-god/2012/05/17/gIQA7XuwWU_story.html?wpisrc=nl_headlines
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Obama and Romney offer differing views of God (Original Post) edcantor May 2012 OP
Why do either men running for President of a secular government Goblinmonger May 2012 #1
Ditto. -nt CrispyQ May 2012 #2
There just happens to be a First Amendment. Thats my opinion May 2012 #7
Goblinmonger wasn't commenting on their right to hold or speak about their beliefs. laconicsax May 2012 #8
differing views of god.... AlbertCat May 2012 #3
Liberty vs. community. I vs. we. I am going with the second one. cbayer May 2012 #4
Gah! daaron May 2012 #5
God is like that boss with a big cushy salary you hope someday to replace. dimbear May 2012 #6
 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
1. Why do either men running for President of a secular government
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:18 AM
May 2012

need to offer ANY view of God? Who gives a rat's ass what they think about God? Sometimes this country pisses me off.

Thats my opinion

(2,001 posts)
7. There just happens to be a First Amendment.
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:07 PM
May 2012

Try reviewing the Court decisions about this matter. Candidates, do not lose their "free-exercise" rights. Government does lose the right to make any religious dogma or structure the law--just because it is religious..

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
8. Goblinmonger wasn't commenting on their right to hold or speak about their beliefs.
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:37 PM
May 2012

His comment merely states that their religious beliefs are irrelevant to the office for which they are running. At no point did he say that they lose their free exercise rights. At no point did he comment on the prohibitions on governmental interference in religious matters nor did he mention that the Government is allowed to "structure the law--just because it is religious."

The comment you replied to simply said that neither Obama or Romney are required to share their beliefs on the divine as part of their Presidential bid because those beliefs are wholly unrelated to the job.

Did you misread the comment or are you trying to manufacture conflict?

 

daaron

(763 posts)
5. Gah!
Fri May 18, 2012, 01:16 PM
May 2012

It's this kind of shallow nonsense, false dichotomies fitted for the election season media cycle masking as legitimate religious debate that makes me emphasize the agnostic label. Why all the certainty? It isn't a real dilemma, and anyway, if it WAS academic, at least it would have some nuance.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
6. God is like that boss with a big cushy salary you hope someday to replace.
Fri May 18, 2012, 05:01 PM
May 2012

Work hard, you can do it.

Get used to the new Mormon reality, evangelicals!



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