Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:14 AM Apr 2018

Mexican Priest Goes to Rome to Teach Exorcism: 'Christ Was the First Exorcist'

https://pjmedia.com/faith/mexican-priest-goes-to-rome-to-teach-exorcism-jesus-was-the-first-exorcist/

Mexican priest Father Cesar Truqui has seen people speaking in tongues, using superhuman strength, and even masturbating 40 times per day. He has expelled demons for the past ten years as an official Roman Catholic exorcist. Based in Switzerland, he is traveling to the Vatican this month to teach a seminar on exorcism, part of the Catholic Church's response to a reported uptick in demand for exorcisms in Italy and across the world.

While many view the practice with skepticism, Truqui went to the Bible to defend it.

"Christ was the first exorcist," Truqui told The Guardian. "The power of casting out demons was one of the first signs that Christianity was a true religion."

...Truqui is correct in saying that Jesus Christ was the first known exorcist. If the New Testament is correct in recording Jesus's various miracles — including numerous exorcisms — the Catholic Church may represent a right way forward — or at least the least wrong way forward — for dealing with demons.


It's the 21st century, and people seriously still think demons not only exist, but can possess people. The largest Christian church on the planet OFFICIALLY TEACHES IT.
13 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
9. No more so than the rest of it
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 12:05 AM
Apr 2018

When you pin all the good stuff on the almighty someone has to take the rap for all the bad stuff. Dog knows the devil has his hands full with all the fornication.

Iggo

(47,554 posts)
12. Oh yeah, demonic possession is absurd on its face.
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:25 AM
Apr 2018

It's the belief in demonic possession by actual educated grownups that's ridiculous.

All day I have to convince myself** that these people aren't stupid.

(**LOL...maybe that's how they do it. )

struggle4progress

(118,285 posts)
4. I don't have much interest in "exorcism" but some people certainly act
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 12:09 PM
Apr 2018

as if they are gripped somehow by gigantic evil forces

British serial killer Harold Shipman, who worked in England as a medical doctor, killed over 200 of his patients before his arrest in 1998



And the underlying defect is not always intellectual, so a rational appeal is not guaranteed to address the problem.

Psychological treatment of a patient may depend heavily on individual history and personality and may require adopting a world-view that makes sense to the patient and has the potential to disrupt and reorganize existing thought patterns: the proper test is not that the approach makes sense to outsiders but rather that progress occurs. This fact may account for the variety of treatment approaches available

Voltaire2

(13,041 posts)
5. You appear to be suggesting that an external "evil force" possessed nazis.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:03 PM
Apr 2018

Such a suggestion, it it were true, would entirely exonerate them from guilt for their actions.

struggle4progress

(118,285 posts)
6. For Germany, in the first half of the twentieth century, it seems to me quite clear
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:22 PM
Apr 2018

that "forces" (external to individuals) played important roles: such "forces" include cultural mythologies, socio-economic contexts, and (later) ideologically-controlled mass media

People often choose who or what they allow to control them

They, of course, remain morally responsible for what they do and for what they choose not to do, depending (however) on what they actually know, what they should know but decide not to examine, or what they cannot possibly know --- which (for a nation of (say) 65 million people) might vary considerably from individual to individual

Voltaire2

(13,041 posts)
10. The attempted walk back is a hoot.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 04:04 PM
Apr 2018

People ought to think just a little bit how their posts might be perceived before hitting send, especially if they are following the unwritten rule here that no defense of theism is ever wrong.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
8. Sounds like he needs to go to a few Pentecostal revivals
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 11:45 PM
Apr 2018

With all the glossolalia he should be able to drum up quite a business. If he can just drive out the snake charming he'd probably save quite a few from death and serious injury.

MineralMan

(146,314 posts)
13. Demons? WTF?
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 10:44 AM
Apr 2018

More supernatural entities to reject, it seems to me. Gods, angels, demons, devils, ghosts, spirits...all bogus, non-existent figments of the human imagination.

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Religion»Mexican Priest Goes to Ro...