Recommended.

Strange bedfellows.

ETA: I'm sure you are going to inform me that calling a raging bigot a raging bigot is a violation of your stupid 11th Commandment. Don't bother. That bit got old a week ago.

Unless "recommended" is now being defined by you as a word meaning you don't like the guy. You recommend his approach, but you do know that "more focus on Jesus" means anti-abortion and gays suck, right? It's not hard to find him making his point clear on both those issues.

As evidence, click on the rec button.

So you agree with that pastor.

You support what the pastor in the OP is doing, right? That's just a yes or no. You could recommend the OP for a variety of reasons.

Especially when they could just say that they made a simple mistake before being aware of more information.

This is the nature of religion - one identifies the ultimate tribal enemies (atheists) and defends all members of one's tribe (even conservative, bigoted Christians).

I have posted a number of items written by Muslims. Would you then infer or ask if I were a Muslim? And I was accused of supporting Russell Moore prior to this exchange.

All you said was "I was accused of supporting Russell Moore."

So, again, do you support what Russell Moore is doing? It's a simple yes or no. It's easy, watch: I'll answer the question.

No, I absolutely do not support Russell Moore. He's a homophobic bigot.

Your turn.

Because we all know how well it goes when Christian groups try to out-Jesus each other.

Giving it at a Southern Baptist convention would have been even better.

try to foist them off on others, we would have no problem at all in our politics. I suggest they do exactly that.

I want people to have the freedom to worship as they please, but I insist on the freedom to ignore such things. If the religious want me to stay out of their lives, they should stay out of mine. It's as simple an equation as I can generate.

Yeah, I don't give a flying fuck what he has to say. Broken clock and all that.
https://religionnews.com/2016/06/13/russell-moores-controversial-lgbt-comments-at-justice-conference-hateful-or-helpful/

It is not enough to call yourself something to be that thing
If I call myself a god, does that make me a god??

So, what are they?

Some Grifters

Honestly. If they aren't Christians, and they aren't followers of some other religion pretending to be Christians, there aren't many other choices.

Is it upon me to label them??

What we have is someone who says he's a Christian, and who believes Jesus was the son of God, born of a virgin, performed miracles, was crucified and resurrected and ascended bodily in to Heaven where he resides today, and who believes their sins are forgiven as a result of all that. I don't see how a person who believes all that isn't a Christian.

Of course, everyone has his own ideas of what constitutes "good works". Does intention count for anything? Many Christians honestly and truly believe they're doing "good works" and following God's will when they oppose equal rights for women, LGBT people, non-Christians, etc. Are they real Christians or fake Christians? The list of works that you think are bad and others consider to be good is probably very, very long.

You see the problem with simply declaring that anyone you don't like isn't a Christian.

I have the right to call out fake christians
Intentions do count
works and intentions do make a difference
Can one hate and be a christian??

I'm not thrilled with the implication that all rotten people must be non-Christians, but of course you have the right to say that. I have the right to ask questions about your bases for doing so.

I'm not sure how it is that you alone are qualified to judge who is really a Christian and who isn't, when there are so many varieties of Christianity that are all different. Are all of them false except yours?

You called them "fake Christians."

A good deal of Protestant sects feel it is the belief in Jesus and their Lord and Savior that makes them a Christian.

and plenty of Catholics (that follow the "good works" thing) that are those things. So....

How do they talk, what do they do??
You have to decide what makes a christian and apply that

Matthew 25:

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

However a Christian comes down on the tension between orthodoxy and orthopraxy, Matthew 25 must be taken seriously.

We still haven't determined what they are, exactly, but we can be sure that they are some type of non-Christian.

There is Biblical support and precedence for all of their repulsive ideas and positions, according to their interpretation of the book. On what basis can they be convinced to change their minds?

One can point out their bigotry and inhumanity. I think one should do that, whenever there is reason to do that.

The time for eye-rolling and walking away was never. Eye-rolling and walking away brought us the priest child sexual abuse that went on for countless decades. It brought us slavery and many other abuses in the name of a deity. No thank you on the eye-rolling.

Nope. I won't comply with the eye-rolling suggestion. Never have. Never will.

Check today's Strib. But when you run into one of these dingbats in person, arguing is completely pointless. You will not convert them or even make them think. I agree that a public statement needs to be refuted, but if it's some knucklehead at a bus stop or a coffee shop, don't waste your breath. It's like mud-wrestling with a pig: You'll get all dirty and the pig likes it.

If they do something heinous in public, I will humiliate them in public. My goal is not to convert anyone. It is to stop the behavior. Public humiliation is a tool that can do that. So, I will not roll my eyes. Not a chance.

I'm talking about one-on-one conversations. Most Bible-thumpers are not capable of feeling humiliation when their Bible-thumping is challenged. It just adds to their misperception that they're being oppressed and martyred and makes them feel that much more superior to the poor, stupid, damned soul who challenged them.

Whether it's one-on-one or a public situation, expressions of bigotry and other such nonsense will get a sharp response from me, not an eye-roll. I consider silence to be agreement in such cases. Such things rarely occur in one-on-one situations for me. They do, however, occur in public settings from time to time. I will humiliate such a person in a public setting. I have done so frequently, and have no intention of discontinuing that. I consider my own safety, of course, but that's it.

I'm not a shy person.

and neither of you "wins." You didn't humiliate him, either; you just pissed him off. Humiliation doesn't occur unless the other person recognizes that he's wrong; to humiliate someone is to make them "feel ashamed and foolish by injuring their dignity and self-respect, especially publicly." Religious nuts aren't ashamed of themselves.

I've gotten applause and laughter from people for shutting down bigots or blatantly rude people. The humiliation on the part of the offender was palpable. It's all in how you do it.

Why should anyone listen to him about anything. He is a bigot and a misogynist. Let him keep silent.