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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Fri May 25, 2018, 06:18 PM May 2018

Good news: Southern Baptists see 'judgment of God' in #MeToo reckoning

From the article:

While not discussing Patterson by name, Al Mohler, president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky., sounded an alarm.
“I have to see it as the judgment of God upon a denomination and the larger evangelical movement for decades of failure in dealing rightly with questions of sexual abuse and misbehavior,” Mohler said in an interview with RNS.


To read more:

https://religionnews.com/2018/05/24/southern-baptists-see-judgment-of-god-in-metoo-reckoning/
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Good news: Southern Baptists see 'judgment of God' in #MeToo reckoning (Original Post) guillaumeb May 2018 OP
Not from a progressive ideological POV. Igel May 2018 #1
He doesn't mean it the way most of us mean it. MineralMan May 2018 #2

Igel

(35,320 posts)
1. Not from a progressive ideological POV.
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:51 PM
May 2018

The idea is that sexual permissiveness is what caused the sexual predators to think that they, too, were sexually liberated. It made their prey easily available. It said that sexual innuendo was okay, sexual openness fine and having multiple partners free of commitments or even in exchange for commitments is okay. After all, sex is just sex and otherwise fairly meaningless.

Which is pretty much the opposite of most conservative evangelical thought. So any problem purveyors of those views may have--for example, the set of actors and actresses who are routinely paraded out as having fashionable social and political ideas and practices--is a good problem.

Even take the "incels" of recent notoriety. If you say that everybody's well-sexed and should be because sexual freedom is a good thing and a healthy sex life is a prerequisite for good health, emotional and physical, then the incels are persecuted. They're shunned, they're despised, and they're cut off. How can they abide by the standards of what a normal person is like--healthy, fit, multiple sexual partners, wealthy, good looking--if their genetic and mental predispositions say they're losers. "Loser" here is a social construct, of course, societal oppression of outcasts and loners by the good looking, those who control sex, and the wealthy and educated. (In other words, often the most liberal of the lot.)

#ToldYouSo, #WeWereRight.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
2. He doesn't mean it the way most of us mean it.
Sat May 26, 2018, 03:26 PM
May 2018

He means it in the sense that everyone should marry a person of the opposite sex and remain faithful to that person for the rest of their lives. No LGBT rights. No protection against physical or sexual abuse when it occurs to women. No reproductive choice. He's not talking about sexual rights, he's talking about living a straight and narrow life.

He also has almost no authority over Southern Baptist clergy. He can't punish those who behave badly. All he can do is talk.

It's not such good news as you think. For all I know, he's lying through his teeth, anyhow. That's been known to happen, you know.

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