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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 12:43 PM Jun 2018

I respect people, not religious beliefs. Respect is based on their actions.

Individual people's religious beliefs are not important to me. Their actions are. I only look at how they behave in all aspects of life to decide what level of respect they deserve from me.

Everyone starts with a general level of respect from me. From there, until I have had time to observe them and their actions, my respect is limited to the respect I show to strangers as individual human beings. That general respect is limited, at first. I treat strangers as blank slates. I am polite to strangers, out of respect for humanity, but that's about it.

Once I know more about a person, through observation, my respect grows or shrinks, depending on how that person acts. It's simple.

My respect for people has nothing to do with their religious beliefs.

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I respect people, not religious beliefs. Respect is based on their actions. (Original Post) MineralMan Jun 2018 OP
Agreed TimeSnowDemos Jun 2018 #1
I agree with you, MineralMan. Mariana Jun 2018 #2
Well, this little group is relatively unimportant, really. MineralMan Jun 2018 #3
Those same folks are the least likely to offer respect for anyone else Major Nikon Jun 2018 #4
 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
1. Agreed
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 12:49 PM
Jun 2018

I extend that out to uniforms and titles as well... Being a soldier or a pastor or a mayor doesn't make you worthy of my respect on a personal level.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
2. I agree with you, MineralMan.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 02:46 PM
Jun 2018

For example, people who whine incessantly about a few atheists criticizing religion, in one lone little group on one site on the internet, aren't likely to earn my respect. This is true regardless of whether the whiner in question is a theist or an atheist.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
3. Well, this little group is relatively unimportant, really.
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 02:59 PM
Jun 2018

I've been in many groups like this over the years, and it's like the same people have been in all of them. Same arguments, same flimsy logic, same attitudes. On both sides, really. Sometimes, there can be good discussions, but you have to dig through a lot of nonsense to find them. Often, threads deteriorate into interminable subthreads that go nowhere at all. I just ignore those, generally.

I participate only for the actual discussions that take place on an open and friendly basis. The rest, I just ignore, for the most part. Often, the most prolific number of replies in threads come from the least capable debaters. I just skip over that stuff. It has nothing to do with the main subject in most cases, anyhow.

There's a week-old thread I started that is mostly full of deeply embedded subthreads. It long ago stopped being interesting. If you only look at the first three levels of subthreads, it's still an interesting discussion, but when you go any deeper, it deteriorates into mindless arguments. Who has time for that? Still, though, the endless subthreads keep kicking it up to the top of the thread list. Weird...

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
4. Those same folks are the least likely to offer respect for anyone else
Mon Jun 4, 2018, 06:46 PM
Jun 2018

Those that make up their own rules and whine incessantly when they aren't followed reminds me of bratty kids that didn't get enough attention from their parents growing up. They whine about their victimization while never taking responsibility for their own behavior.

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