The directive should be 'immediately suspend suspect from all duties, and notify proper authorities'.

Period.

This isn't the freaking 14th Century in Europe FFS.

But group protection, even of members who violate the law, is something that seems to be seen in every group.

It is not.

My actual point.

They are protected by the cabal. That's obvious from the current RCC child sex abuse scandal. The cabal is in charge, so it shoves all that aside, and that cabal has engineered protection from the civil authorities over a couple of millennia.

You knew that, I'll bet.

and I posted the article to highlight the procedural hurdles that were created to protect the predators.

SECULAR LAW.

Because the church puts canon law above it.

That's their RELIGIOUS belief.

Now go back to closing your eyes and covering your ears and saying "LA LA LA LA" because you can't tolerate anyone pointing out the flaws of religion.

Simple.

They believe canon law is more important than secular law.

That's a religious belief, BTW.

https://www.economist.com/erasmus/2014/02/06/a-loose-canon

That seems obvious enough. The answer is painfully simple, but is not accepted. Lock 'em up!

Ones created to protect predators.

You choose to look at everything but the root of the problem. I wonder why that is?

And agree with it.

The problem is that predators exist everywhere, in every group and profession. And predators will prey on their victims. And often, other members of an organization will cover up the actions of the predators in their particular organization. An all too common human tendency.

And you refuse to consider religion as a factor, despite it staring you right in the face.

Very telling.

Religious groups are obviously groups. But the commonality is predation, which exists in every group.

You don't want to ever consider religion as a factor in bad behavior.

You reflexively throw out false equivalencies like "PATRIOTISM" and "EVERY GROUP HAS PROBLEMS", despite this group being the Religion group, where religion is the topic of discussion.

It makes you so angry that you lash out and hurl nasty accusations and insults, implying that people who disagree with you are part of a mindless "choir" or that anyone who voices a contrary opinion has an "agenda" and thus can be ignored.

All are quite familiar with your tactics now, gil, and it's why you struggle so mightily to be taken seriously.

I include religious groups in my listing.

That's MY point.

And you still have yet to disprove it.

in that predators are often found in religious organizations, but the main factor is that predators prey on others.

That you close your eyes and pretend that fact doesn't exist is a problem - not only for you, but for the Catholic church AND its insane number of victims.

Render to Caesar...etc.., is what Jesus actually said.


And my posts about this situation, including, ironically, the one in which we are talking, refutes your assertion that I am ignoring it.

Other organizations are bound by SECULAR law.

This church thinks it is bound by its RELIGIOUS law first and foremost.

That you are in denial about the reality of this situation is really pathetic.

But the actual post stands as a refutation of what you are saying.

In order to defend religion, you are now saying Catholicism isn't a religion.

My goodness.

Amazing? Not at this point.

You have no game, gil.

Beyond pathetic.

Because this is one of many such instances.

Your position is so pathetically weak, even you know it can't be defended, I guess.

But thanks for bringing John Paul into the discussion. He's generally well liked so gets left out, but this info that he's actually responsible for the difficulty in bringing these rapists to Justice is important for everyone to know.

It just hit me, that section of the Vatican sounded familiar because "Formerly known as the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition"

So they gave charge of protecting child rapists to the inquisitors.

And who was the Lord high Inquisitor for this time period?

Joseph Ratzinger (25 November 1981 – 2 April 2005, death of Pope John Paul II)

The entire institution is set up ro protect child rapists. This is not normal, this isn't something that happens everywhere.

at covering up it’s crimes and protecting it’s own.

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It assumes the RCC knows about the child rape to begin with, which almost certainly happens just a fraction of the time. Priests are venerated as godly by their congregation and placed on a high pedestal. As such they have an inherited aspect of trust and infallibility. Every victim has to be thinking who is going to believe them over a priest? Many victims never reported the crimes to anyone and many more were summarily ignored as uncredible before anyone documented anything.

So the simplest answer is they got away with it because the entire RCC has a culture of child rape, and despite pope Frank's lip service, they have done virtually nothing to change that culture.

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...I agree with the basic thesis of your post, with the caveat that the RCC's knowledge, as an entity, of the systematic rapes is not an assumption, it is a fact. They developed, and implemented, a strategy to manage the fall-out. They knew. The RCC, as an entity, is culpable; the laity,given these latest reports and preponderance of evidence, are increasingly complicit with every future donation to this culture of child rape.

However, my question and astonishment were directed at the apparently purposeful and willful ignorance on display at the individual level.

The OP has a history of trying to pretend the RCC's culture of child rape is no different than any other large organization.