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NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 01:21 PM Sep 2018

Good news: Survey Finds Pope Francis' Popularity Plunging After Most Recent Abuse Scandals

http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/09/18/survey-finds-pope-francis-popularity-plunging-after-most-recent-abuse-scandals/




Survey Finds Pope Francis’ Popularity Plunging After Most Recent Abuse Scandals
By Hemant Mehta, September 18, 2018

Here’s some good news: Even Pope Francis, the recipient of all kinds of undeserved positive press, has seen his popularity plummet in the wake of the latest round of Catholic Church child sex abuse revelations.

Gallup notes that only 53% of Americans have a favorable opinion of the pope, down from 76% at his peak in early 2014, and in a virtual tie with the 52% rating he had when first elected to the position and no one knew much about him.

Among Catholics, however, his reputation hasn’t really wavered. It’s at 79% which represents something of a midpoint for him as far as his followers go. (The number has wavered between 71% and 89% over the years.)

Among non-Catholics, his favorability is at an all-time low of 45%.

These data come from Gallup’s latest survey, conducted Sept. 4-12, as the Roman Catholic Church faced continued fallout from the Pennsylvania state attorney general’s report on allegations of sexual abuse by priests. A few weeks before the survey, Francis himself was confronted with a public call for his resignation over claims he had concealed allegations of sexual abuse leveled at a cardinal in the U.S.


Gallup also notes that Pope John Paul II hit a record low of 61% shortly after the Spotlight investigations were public, but Pope Francis is still doing slightly better than his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, who was at 40% favorability shortly before he stepped down.
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Good news: Survey Finds Pope Francis' Popularity Plunging After Most Recent Abuse Scandals (Original Post) NeoGreen Sep 2018 OP
I'm non-religious and don't view this as good news. It's RW fascist wing of church smearing Francis blm Sep 2018 #1
Agreed. The only reason this is happening is because of the right elements of the church preferring Tiggeroshii Sep 2018 #3
So what actual policies differ Frank from the "RW fascist wing"? Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2018 #4
"Why would an any atheist want Francis pushed out..." NeoGreen Sep 2018 #5
Not gonna happen like that. He gets pushed out and RW fascists take control. blm Sep 2018 #6
Uhh... NeoGreen Sep 2018 #7
Disagree, but, understand why you feel as you do. blm Sep 2018 #8
I could be wrong... NeoGreen Sep 2018 #9
On what basis do you disagree? trotsky Sep 2018 #11
So, how would things be different if that happened? Mariana Sep 2018 #10
Sure. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2018 #12
Exactly, thanks. mahina Sep 2018 #2

blm

(113,065 posts)
1. I'm non-religious and don't view this as good news. It's RW fascist wing of church smearing Francis
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 01:45 PM
Sep 2018

relentlessly in their effort to drive him out because they hate his more liberal views. Why would an any atheist want Francis pushed out as a result of RW dirty tricks targeting him?

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
3. Agreed. The only reason this is happening is because of the right elements of the church preferring
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 02:26 PM
Sep 2018

Custom and order over people's wellbeing and morality.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
4. So what actual policies differ Frank from the "RW fascist wing"?
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 03:16 PM
Sep 2018

I know he talks a somewhat good talk, but what actual policy change has Frank done that differs him from Pope Nazi before him?

And seeing his popularity go down might be a good sign that this church is losing it's control over so many people and societies.

NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)
5. "Why would an any atheist want Francis pushed out..."
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 04:41 PM
Sep 2018

Where goes the pope, so goes the church.

Or so, one can only hope.

Consequently, I see it as better than good news. IM(everso)HO.

NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)
7. Uhh...
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 06:59 PM
Sep 2018

...I hate to burst your bubble, but based on the theology, they're all on the same page.

I'll take whatever diminishes their power, and if it is merely an internal struggle between different flavors of RW theology, so be it.

NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)
9. I could be wrong...
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 07:14 PM
Sep 2018

...but the diminishment through this internal squabble could be the beginning of a downward spiral.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
10. So, how would things be different if that happened?
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 01:01 AM
Sep 2018

How would it affect the laity, and how would it affect the world outside the Church?

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
12. Sure.
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 12:54 PM
Sep 2018

We gotta tolerate the homophobic, transphobic, woman-hating, victim-blaming, rape apologist cuz we wouldn't want a RW fascist being pope... you know... again.

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