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Soph0571

(9,685 posts) Sun Oct 21, 2018, 08:20 AM Oct 2018

Dear Christians: Are you more concerned with being true to your church...or being true to your faith?

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Dear Christians: Are you more concerned with being true to your church...or being true to your faith? (Original Post) Soph0571 Oct 2018 OP

It's The ends justify the means Presidency for today's Evangelical. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #1

Faith. I don't need a church to have faith or belief. woodsprite Oct 2018 #2

I'd swear that's a big change from what I grew up with. Pope George Ringo II Oct 2018 #3

It's pretty common for UU churches to have a few atheist members Major Nikon Oct 2018 #5

Ours is a Pesbyterian church, but very liberal woodsprite Oct 2018 #6

The bible has nothing to say about gambling Major Nikon Oct 2018 #4

Oftentimes the method of religion is more important than the God of religion. keithbvadu2 Oct 2018 #7

Funtatlaguy

(10,886 posts)

1. It's The ends justify the means Presidency for today's Evangelical.

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Oct 21, 2018, 08:28 AM

Oct 2018

Just get conservative judges.
Make liberals unhappy.

woodsprite

(11,924 posts)

2. Faith. I don't need a church to have faith or belief.

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Oct 21, 2018, 08:39 AM

Oct 2018

I go to church for the social, community service, and music aspects, and I’m not tied to it. I’ve found that there are many like-minded individuals there. It’s where I’ve met many of my political compadres.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)

3. I'd swear that's a big change from what I grew up with.

Reply to woodsprite (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 21, 2018, 09:08 AM

Oct 2018

It really seems like when I was younger, people were members of whatever denomination, usually a particular congregation, and that was just the way it was. Now there seems to be a lot more mobility. I'm not sure if that's actually happened, or if I'm just more aware of it now.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)

5. It's pretty common for UU churches to have a few atheist members

Reply to woodsprite (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 21, 2018, 10:59 AM

Oct 2018

They join for the fellowship, not the belief system.

woodsprite

(11,924 posts)

6. Ours is a Pesbyterian church, but very liberal

Reply to Major Nikon (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 21, 2018, 04:33 PM

Oct 2018

I enjoy going. I trust the people on the pastor nomination and selection committees will select someone who fits with our church community. If not, there will be people who leave, and I may be one of them. Several years ago (maybe 18-20 now), we had co-pastors who sounded good in the interviews and in the demo sermons they gave, but were much more conservative than they let on. Contracts are for 5 yrs. That was all they served for. Some of the conservative people that had joined our congregation left with them.

Oh well.....

I have a friend who has held administrative posts in our church almost as long as I've been going there (24 yrs). He says he looks at the Bible as guidelines (I said like the pirate code?) They are stories with some truth, written to be moral guidelines for their audience. The book has been rewritten over the years and adapted to whatever audience they are trying to influence at the time.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)

4. The bible has nothing to say about gambling

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Oct 21, 2018, 10:57 AM

Oct 2018

The reason Christians call gambling a sin is because it's competition for the collection plate, which is itself a bit of a gamble if you think about it much.

Meanwhile spousal abuse, child rape, and slavery still aren't sinful. Go figure.

keithbvadu2

(36,906 posts)

7. Oftentimes the method of religion is more important than the God of religion.