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MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 01:41 PM Dec 2018

Cognitive Biases or Errors Are at the Heart of Religion

We humans make most decisions based on emotional, intuitive, or instinctive grounds. It's no wonder. The more primitive parts of our brains, the parts we share with other vertebrates and mammals, are all about survival, reproduction and food. If we don't pay attention to those needs, we die off.

We're lucky enough to have also evolved a hefty cerebral cortex that is capable of reasoning, rather than just reacting, but we often forget to use it for some of the most important decisions we make. Instead, we let our fast-thinking old parts of the brain handle most things.

It's amazing that we've managed to survive, really, because we have to be social, creative, reasoning critters. We're too weak to compete otherwise. We have to be able to figure out ways to overcome our weaknesses. But, when it comes down to brass tacks, we still often react like our ancient evolutionary ancestors.

It's a complex thing, decision-making. Sometimes we do well, but other times, we behave quite stupidly. Religion is one of those times. Lacking any evidence, we believe because it lets us forget some basic facts. We fear dying, so we believe that we'll go on after our bodies stop.

Humans are smart, but silly, emotional, error-prone primates.

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Cognitive Biases or Errors Are at the Heart of Religion (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2018 OP
Great post. Wellstone ruled Dec 2018 #1
I see where you are going with this but I have to disagree? violetpastille Dec 2018 #2
And is any human really free of this? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #3
Atheism is NOT the declaration edhopper Dec 2018 #4
There is no science behind atheism. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #5
Balderdash! edhopper Dec 2018 #6
No, there is no evidence or proof for your position. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #7
Any evidence that this supernatural entity you call God edhopper Dec 2018 #8
The existence of the created universe itself. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #9
I'm sorry. I don't understand the sentence in your title. MineralMan Dec 2018 #10
Edited to correct my error. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #12
Ah, OK, but there is no evidence that it was MineralMan Dec 2018 #13
There is no evidence that edhopper Dec 2018 #11
Or, more to the point, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #16
Is there evidence edhopper Dec 2018 #17
define alternate or parallel universe Lordquinton Dec 2018 #14
Simple logic to follow Lordquinton Dec 2018 #15
It turtles edhopper Dec 2018 #18
That's just your cognitive bias Lordquinton Dec 2018 #19

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
2. I see where you are going with this but I have to disagree?
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 03:33 PM
Dec 2018

Religion is something that we created along with our human language to control our environment and each other. It was a separation from the parts of us that we share with other beings and a stepping off into the abstract. The scientist and the theologian are more alike than different.

Our very ancient ancestors, our "primitive" ancestors were so well adapted to their environments that they didn't have a priest class as such. There were shamans but the shamans hunted and gathered along with everyone else with only rare exceptions.

With the rise of agriculture there came a leisure class and a priest/banking class. That's when the cognitive biases really got going. "Why do you get to sit around and boss and I have to move these boulders?" "Because I am noble" "Because I am holy."

All abstractions that require a lot of strategy and marketing to pull off.

The invention of "Religion" has less to do with emotions and intuitions and more to do with getting trapped in our own "reasoning" while trying to control the emotions and intuitions of the peasant class.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
3. And is any human really free of this?
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 01:54 PM
Dec 2018

Any unprovable assertions are only that. Whether it is a declaration that a god exists, or a declaration that no god exists, it is an unprovable assertion.

And any claim that one position is more scientific or logical than the other is subject to the same biases.


But, accepting for the sake of argument that your assertion that religion belongs solely to the reptile brain, that would make religion hard wired in humans.



edhopper

(33,615 posts)
4. Atheism is NOT the declaration
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 03:42 PM
Dec 2018

that no gods exist.

You have been told this many, many, many times.

Of course atheism is more scientific, lack of evidence leads to the high probability that no gods exist.

What evidence do you have for any gods? What is your scientific basis for a god?

edhopper

(33,615 posts)
6. Balderdash!
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 04:04 PM
Dec 2018

I am an atheist because there is no evidence for any gods. And plenty of counter evidence for most of the gods religions say exist.

That is the definition of science.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
7. No, there is no evidence or proof for your position.
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 04:07 PM
Dec 2018

Define what constitutes acceptable evidence.

A signed letter?
A photo?
DNA evidence?

edhopper

(33,615 posts)
8. Any evidence that this supernatural entity you call God
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 04:10 PM
Dec 2018

has had even the slightest impact on the physical Universe.

Any evidence that there is not a completely physical explanation to the way the Universe works.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
9. The existence of the created universe itself.
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 04:13 PM
Dec 2018

Last edited Wed Dec 26, 2018, 06:33 PM - Edit history (1)

That is my belief.


What if the evidence that you seek is in an alternate or parallel universe?

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
10. I'm sorry. I don't understand the sentence in your title.
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 04:35 PM
Dec 2018

It makes no sense. Created is not a noun. What does "The existence of created" mean? Created is the past tense or participial form of the verb "to create."

What did you intend to convey with that sentence?

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
13. Ah, OK, but there is no evidence that it was
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 06:53 PM
Dec 2018

Created, which assumes a creator. So , still just a faith belief with no evidence to support it. For me, the universe just IS. It just exists. That, I know to be true. I do not know its origin, nor whether it has always existed. I make no claims because I have no evidence to support them.

edhopper

(33,615 posts)
11. There is no evidence that
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 05:13 PM
Dec 2018

there was an intelligence behind the origin of the Universe. Postulated what ifs, when there is no evidence for them is evidence.

edhopper

(33,615 posts)
17. Is there evidence
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:14 AM
Dec 2018

you are aware of?

Postulating that there could be evidence when none exists is the same as there being no evidence.

In science, which atheism is more like, when new evidence is presented, then the possibilities change.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
15. Simple logic to follow
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 07:04 PM
Dec 2018

The universe exists therefore it must have been created, therefore there must be a creator, therefore a creator exists, therefore something must have created the creator, therefore a creator creator must exist... Oh dear, this never ends does it?

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