and half of America would be cheering.

Both gods are equally legitimate, in my opinion, but I think they are different gods.

Liberal Christians seem to worship a god of love, who wants the people to care for the poor, the sick, and the imprisoned.

Conservative Christians seem to worship a god of world domination, who wants the people to ignore the poor, the sick, and the imprisoned in favor of "free markets."

Just my current take on the situation. Does anyone else think the "two camps" are worshiping different gods?

I was raised to believe that good people did good deeds, no matter what religion that did or did not subscribe to.

These are clearly not good people doing good deeds, imo. How differently they interpret and exercise their religion is so foreign to me.

One of them needs a new name. Hell, if the NY Mets could do it, surely the liberal christians can.

Illustrate the anachronistic, anthropomorphic drivel that is rife in religion, by definition. What you will be left with, is something far kinder, and less discriminatory. Sorta like Jesus, no not the Rambo Jesus remake.

But I also think he would freak out if he knew what others had done in his name. It really is hard to reconcile such a humble, kindly guy claiming to be the messiah and only son of god. Just doesn't fit. And all the miracle nonsense is just plain insulting to Jesus, the teacher and rabbi.

nonsequitor?

satan.

The God of money and war.

Supposedly we use the same training manual, but have no idea how they come up with what they say and do.

Dat's why can't help but using a small "c" for them, they use the name but they don't seem to understand the parables, the teaching or the Life. For those of us whose intent it is to follow the Christ I use the capital "C".

Maybe they are portraying the "leaders at the Temple", but Yeshua is pretty clear on his opinion and evaluation of them.

Sure seems to be HOW the Conservatives treat the world. No wonder there is so much hatred. Perhaps they think that only a few have a soul?? Seems to me the first thing asked of us is to be humble, not vicious, cold and domineering.

THAT behavior exhibited- is not just pathetic, it is an outrage to ALL of us, ALL of U.S.!

I don't doubt the sincerity of their faith. At least for the vast majority of them, some people may fake it for social or political gain. I just think they worship a different god.

They get nothing.

http://www.biblebelievers.com/

And these are probably the same people who would claim that, as an atheist, I cannot know right from wrong.

I am tempted to interject physicist Steven Weinberg here. In fact,

Many here will not like that quote. And I would not disassociate myself from that sentiment. But these actions in Dearborn are a precise exemplar of what Weinberg was saying.

At minimum, these guys are damaging religion in ways that they obviously do not see. In other words, they have been blinded by their ideology. In my opinion, therein lies the dangers of religion. For, at maximum, the harm that is done can be significant.

Now, where are the good religious people who will stand next to those Moslems saying, "we stand up with our fellow humans to say that this is wrong."

As an atheist, I would gladly do that.

If religious people are as outraged at this as I am, they should do the same.

Thanks for a chance to rant a bit.
Peace for all of us.

I knew the good people are out there. I sincerely hope that there will come a time when the news media will not be able to cover the jerks because religious, and non-religious, living together and helping one another will be the norm.

Maybe we all need to be more proactive --dare I say agressive -- in presenting this meme.

Waving a severed animal's head around on a stick in public is something only a total psychopath would do. The fact that it was at a Muslim convention is beside the point, religion is fair game for criticism as far as I am concerned but waving a severed head around on a stick is not criticism it is sick and evil. It borders on terrorism, if there were any particularly brutal murders in the Dearborn area a person who would wave a severed head around on a stick would be at the top of my list of suspects. People who do this sort of shit are extremely dangerous, if this is not a crime it should be because this guy deserves to be locked away for a long time before he kills someone.

that Jesus didn't eat pork either???

I encountered someone on IP the other day who appeared to think that Jews are the only Semitic people.

(Disclaimer: I most definitely do not endorse the likely outcome of the aforementioned hypothetical.)

Namely that no one has accused the OP of searching the dregs of the Internet to find a story that's embarrassing to DU's liberal Christians. No one has accused the OP of posting this story as flamebait, no one has dedicated themselves to disproving the story, and no one has posted anything along the lines of "organized atheism is just as hateful."

It's truly fascinating.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/121830411#post3

Have a nice day.

(The name of the man in that photo is Jacques Marie Bigot. French scientist.)

...I find that information rather useful, because I can now accurately describe lots of posts here in this Forum I did not feel comfortable telling the truth about. It's... liberating.

Thank you.

Take your chances.

Cute.

and certainly not representative of all Christians or even all conservative Christians. And they deserve to be called on it. But I find it rather hypocritical that many atheists did not show the same level of criticism for the atheists who marched in Pennsylvania a while back openly mocking Christians and Muslims. How one is called bigotry and the other "free speech" is puzzling indeed.

Such actions are a human thing and not a religion thing.