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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-r-friberg/science-religion-and-the-bahai-faith_b_1598473.htmlStephen R. Friberg
Experimental physicist
Posted: 06/19/2012 12:58 pm
It wasn't long ago that a lot of people, especially people on college campuses, viewed religion as a musty artifact from the Bronze Age. Naturally, they thought of it as inherently unscientific. Times have changed, and a new generation has discovered how strongly science and religion are intertwined. But old views persist -- they often do -- and many people still hold science and religion to be in conflict, so it can come as a shock to learn that the youngest of the world religions, the Bahá'í Faith, founded in 1844, holds the agreement of science and religion as a core principle. And Bahá'ís don't see the agreement of science and religion as a theological debate but a plan of action.
Two Wings of One Bird
The view that science and religion agree has a distinguished heritage. It prevailed in Athens during the axial age, in Islam at its peak, and in Europe during the scientific revolution. Modern society is likely to soon embrace it again, in no small part because it is increasingly clear that secularism and science by themselves cannot answer the challenges of a global society.
The Bahá'í view is that true science and true religion are completely compatible:
Science and religion are the two wings of one bird. Both must be equally strong for the bird to fly: "Religion and science are the two wings upon which man's intelligence can soar into the heights, with which the human soul can progress. It is not possible to fly with one wing alone!" (`Abdu'l-Bahá, Paris Talks, pg. 143).
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dimbear
(6,271 posts)No one should be shocked that Lord ElRon is displeased. But also, Mary Baker Eddy is displeased (1879).
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Scientology........
It's often not clear where to draw the line, and I am sure that many could say that Scientology is no more bizarre or fantastic than other religions, but for me personally - not a religion.
longship
(40,416 posts)There are many religions newer than the cited Bahai. Religious belief seems to be a part of human evolution. I don't want to get into a chair throwing argument about psychological evolution, but there is some research indicating that these religious feelings are part of our humanity.
Probably one of the best way to understand the process of how a religion can be born is to look at the history of the Cargo Cults which were born out of Western explorers and WWII military landing on South Pacific islands.
What is most interesting is that the Christian missionaries that landed on these islands utterly failed in their attempts to convert the natives. Instead, the locals made their own religion out of whole cloth based on the visitors' apparent higher technology. The John Frum cult exists to this day.
Religion is a social construct. Science is too. But whereas religion tells stories, none of which are backed by data, science looks at the universe and asks the question, What can we know? That is a question that religion rarely, if ever, asks. Another difference is the second question, What if I am wrong? It is a question
asked every day in science and one which is never even considered with religion.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)That's one of the best questions you can ask yourself, about everything.
I started asking it in earnest about ten years ago, as part of my skeptical responsibility to myself. It was surprising how much I discovered that I was wrong about. A short decade later I'm no longer a committed scientistic positivist who assumes that human ingenuity will fix all the problems of the world. I'm now a non-dualist panentheist who believes that modern civilization and much of the life on the planet (perhaps even human beings) are destined for the trash-heap of history, sooner rather than later, all due to the human approach to problem-solving.
Be careful what you wish for...
Silent3
(15,212 posts)...and insistent poetic metaphor.