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Related: About this forumSupreme Court rules sensibly on Mt. Soledad cross
I'm pleasantly surprised.
http://ffrf.org/news/releases/reason-prevails-over-mt.-soledad-cross-violation/
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)the USSCt can sometimes get it right.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)By not taking the case, the 9th Circuit decision stands.
See below.
The U.S. Supreme Court announced Monday it will not hear an appeal of a court ruling that the Mount Soledad cross in La Jolla is unconstitutional.
The decision likely means the fate of the cross will eventually land back in federal court in San Diego.
In January 2011, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the cross sent a message of government endorsement of religion and was therefore unconstitutional. However, the court left open the door for other legal alternatives to be found that would not necessarily mean the cross, which is on federal land, would have to be removed.
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/jun/25/mount-soledad-case/
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Maybe they didn't know that and just decided not to hear the case?
Not taking the case and letting the lower court stand is a kind of ruling. They were fine with the ruling. The 9th Circuit can now be used as precedence in other Circuits.
laconicsax
(14,860 posts)People who want to criticize atheists, the FFRF, the 9th Circuit's decision, or efforts to uphold church-state separation can do so by nitpicking headlines.
rug
(82,333 posts)Ignorance is a poor weapon of activism.
laconicsax
(14,860 posts)Which part made you think I was talking about you?
Do you see yourself as someone who wants to criticize atheists?
Do you see yourself as someone who wants to criticize the FFRF?
Do you see yourself as someone who wants to criticize the 9th Circuit's decision?
Or do you see yourself as someone who wants to criticize efforts to enforce the establishment clause?
rug
(82,333 posts)I repeat: ignorance is a poor tool of activism, even if it's only internet activism.
2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)you can see things. And your voyance doesn't need to be that clair for that.
rug
(82,333 posts)laconicsax
(14,860 posts)Or were you giving an excuse for a yet-unnamed party who sought to criticize atheists through nitpicking?
2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)Nice. You're good company.
rug
(82,333 posts)And I see you once again want to make a discussion about a subject into a discussion about a person.
(That was a great find. Thanks.)
laconicsax
(14,860 posts)Edited to add screenshot for if rug edits.
Response to laconicsax (Reply #21)
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laconicsax
(14,860 posts)Maybe you should link to your own image hosting account the next time you want to use an image.
You're asking why I alerted on a Romney campaign image on Democratic Underground?
rug
(82,333 posts)You switch a photo which you posted from your photobucket account, which is "44 in this thread, http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=33032 , which I cut and paste.
Now you use the Romney photo, from your account, and accuse me of being a Romney shill?
All the urls are from your photobucket account. You're so transparent.
laconicsax
(14,860 posts)I can't say the same for you.
rug
(82,333 posts)Is there another laconicsax using photobucket?
Here's the url:
Here's the url of the photo you switced:
You have the gall to manipulate your photobucket account to knowingly accuse me falsely of posting a Romney poster and try to mislead anyone who reads this?
You have openly crossed way over the line.
laconicsax
(14,860 posts)See?
rug
(82,333 posts)How stupid do you think people are? The link is still to your photobucket account.
laconicsax
(14,860 posts)You should invest in one. That way you don't have to worry about broken links the next time you want to post an image.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)and YOU are bitching about them changing their pictures. You might want to take a "shit-you-shouldn't-do-if-you-are-going-to-be-on-the-Internet-at-all-and-not-look-like-a-dumbass 101" class. Jesus. I teach 14-year old kids that know better than that. Was it that hard for you to just take the picture and put it in your own photobucket account?
Kaleva
(36,312 posts)You might want to read it before making further comments.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)What admin decides to do has no relation to the fact that hotlinking to someone else's photobucket account is on the top of the list of stupid shit to do on the Internet.
Thanks for chiming in for rug, though. I'm sure he appreciates it.
Kaleva
(36,312 posts)rug will be here tomorrow. The other person may not be. Who then did the dumb thing?
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)my comment to rug was about his actions as a user of the Internet and were distinct from anything that admin may or may not do to laconicsax.
They both did a dumb thing. They have both admitted as such.
aka-chmeee
(1,132 posts)Brings to mind the routine which ends:
I didn't put the bullet in the furnace and stop talking about my mother!
rug
(82,333 posts)2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)The Justices would understand that (as, in fact, would most first-year law students). Furthermore, the papers from the cross's proponents, asking the Court to reverse the decision, would have made that abundantly clear.
As for precedent, the Ninth Circuit decision is not binding outside the Ninth Circuit area, even though the Supreme Court declined to hear the appeal. It will certainly be cited elsewhere if a similar issue arises, but another circuit could decide to disagree with it. By contrast, if the Supreme Court had chosen to hear the appeal and had affirmed, then that decision would be binding throughout the federal system.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)do you have anything of substance to add to the topic?
rug
(82,333 posts)trotsky
(49,533 posts)Just wondering if you had any comments - guess you just wanted to piss on someone again. Take care, rug.