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BridgeTheGap

(3,615 posts)
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 08:09 AM Aug 2012

The New Science of Religion


When a moth flies at night, it uses the moon and the stars to steer a straight path. Those light sources are fixed and distant, so the rays always strike the moth's multilensed eyes at the same angle, making them reliable for nocturnal navigation. But introduce something else bright—a candle, say, or a campfire—and there will be trouble. The light radiates outward, confusing the moth and causing it to spiral ever closer to the blaze until the insect meets a fiery end.

For years Richard Dawkins has used the self-immolation of moths to explain religion. The example can be found in his 2006 best seller, The God Delusion, and it's been repeated in speeches and debates, interviews and blog posts. Moths didn't evolve to commit suicide; that's an unfortunate byproduct of other adaptations. In much the same way, the thinking goes, human beings embrace religion for unrelated cognitive reasons. We evolved to search for patterns in nature, so perhaps that's why we imagine patterns in religious texts. Instead of being guided by the light, we fly into the flames.

The implication—that religion is basically malevolent, that it "poisons everything," in the words of the late Christopher Hitchens—is a standard assertion of the New Atheists. Their argument isn't just that there probably is no God, or that intelligent design is laughable bunk, or that the Bible is far from inerrant. It's that religion is obviously bad for human beings, condemning them to ignorance, subservience, and endless conflict, and we would be better off without it.

But would we?

Read more: http://www.utne.com/mind-body/new-science-of-religion.aspx#ixzz24SsbOTyQ
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Jim__

(14,083 posts)
1. Yes, before passing judgement on a difficult subject you thoroughly research it.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:36 AM
Aug 2012

Sounds like a reasonable approach.

groovedaddy

(6,229 posts)
2. There is something real about the dynamic of faith and it doesn't seem to matter
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:40 AM
Aug 2012

what the particular belief is. Is it the nature of mind, something akin to the placebo effect?
The problem with organized religion is one related to power and the sorts of people drawn to that power. It seems that religions begin with a well-meaning "saint" or avatar come to bring some fundamental truth of reality. The message resonates with certain people and they begin forming a community. At first, they will typically run askance of the existing power structure and gain their ire. If they survive and flourish, they eventually become a force to be reckoned with on a different level. Roman Emperor Constantine provides a perfect illustration of this in "adopting" christianity as the state religion, tweeking it to make it more palatable to pagan beliefs. Constantine, in all likelyhood, was a pychopath. Like all psychopaths, he recognized that there was a real power in the christian community. All the attempts at suppressing christianity had failed, so Constantine simply joined it with the state in a deft move. The modern Roman catholic church has also demonstrated the infiltration of psychopaths at the highest levels (again, being drawn to the power there) in the pedophelia scandals, particularly in church officialdom's complicity in facilitating it.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
3. Recommended - great article.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 11:23 AM
Aug 2012

Whether god exists or not is not a question that I think will be answered, but studying religion can provide great insights into it's origins and effects.

Good stuff. Thanks for posting this.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
4. Very unusual approach, using psychology to maximize donations. Probably practical,
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 09:51 PM
Aug 2012

but to get back to the suicidal moths, the point I see is that the poor things were fine before men invented candles.

Back then religion made sense too.

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