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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 01:13 PM Aug 2012

Prison official: American Taliban fighter Lindh, other Muslim inmates show defiance

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/officer-says-lindh-other-muslim-inmates-cite-religion-to-defy-authority-in-indiana-prison/2012/08/29/1212cb86-f1ff-11e1-b74c-84ed55e0300b_story.html

By Associated Press,

INDIANAPOLIS — American Taliban fighter John Walker Lindh and other Muslims housed at a special federal prison unit in Indiana have used the veil of religion to show defiance toward their captors and assert power over other inmates, prison officials testified Wednesday.

Lindh is suing the government to overturn a policy preventing him and the other Muslim detainees he’s housed with from performing their five daily prayers as a group. He once delivered an incendiary sermon in Arabic at the Terre Haute prison’s Communication Management Unit despite a requirement that inmates speak English except for ritual prayers, security official Tim Coleman testified during the third day of the trial over Lindh’s lawsuit.

Lindh, who is serving a 20-year sentence for aiding the Taliban during the 2001 U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan, says group prayer is required under the school of Islam to which he adheres, and that the prison policy violates a 1993 law barring the government from curtailing religious speech without showing a compelling interest.

Coleman said Lindh has a history of acting defiantly toward prison officials.

“He’s not recognizing our authority and is trying to put religion over our authority,” Coleman said.


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Prison official: American Taliban fighter Lindh, other Muslim inmates show defiance (Original Post) cbayer Aug 2012 OP
what do prisoners have to lose --? xchrom Aug 2012 #1
This guy Lindh seems to be the catalyst for much of this. cbayer Aug 2012 #2
i guess. but they're prisoners. xchrom Aug 2012 #3
Not sure what the consequences are, but, according to the article cbayer Aug 2012 #4
yes. i remember him well from the news at the time. xchrom Aug 2012 #5

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
1. what do prisoners have to lose --?
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 02:06 PM
Aug 2012

i guess i don't understand -- i mean they're prisoners -- what attitude towards authority are going to have?

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
2. This guy Lindh seems to be the catalyst for much of this.
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 02:13 PM
Aug 2012

There also seems to be a dynamic within the prison where he is trying to obtain more power for his group.

I can see why the prison officials are concerned about this.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
3. i guess. but they're prisoners.
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 02:21 PM
Aug 2012

they will only ever have but so much 'power' -- and their sentences can be extended for bad behavior can't they?

and wouldn't this be an appropriate use of solitary when some one acts out?

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
4. Not sure what the consequences are, but, according to the article
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 02:26 PM
Aug 2012

there have been fights and increasing intimidation towards non-Muslims and prison staff.

The punishment for one incident was loss of email access for a week.

Not sure what to make of it all. This guy converted to Islam at 16 after reading Malcolm X and was convicted of actively aiding the Taliban in Afghanistan. He seems to care little about consequences.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
5. yes. i remember him well from the news at the time.
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 02:31 PM
Aug 2012

loss of email? -- something my mom would have done.

i'm guessing others could keep him up to date if there is some outside coordination -- i'm not sure who would want to risk that.

if he is being a consistent problem -- put him in solitary.

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