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Wed Sep 26, 2012, 11:35 PM Sep 2012

Defying Eternal Damnation, Catholics will Vote Democratic

Last edited Thu Sep 27, 2012, 07:21 PM - Edit history (1)

September 26, 2012
7:20PM
Post by Sarah Posner

When the Department of Health and Human Services issued its regulation requiring employers (except houses of worship) to cover contraception for their employees, the conventional wisdom was that it would hurt Obama’s support from Catholic voters.

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The latest Pew poll, though, shows Obama bouncing back from a decline in support among Catholic voters. As Daniel Burke at Religion News Service notes, in June, the same poll found Obama barely leading Mitt Romney among Catholic voters, 49-47%. But in September, he’s pulled ahead, and now leads Romney among Catholic voters 54-39%. Pew’s comparison with 2008 exit polls showed that Obama’s current standing among Catholics is identical to the percentage of Catholics who voted for him in 2008. But Romney is behind where John McCain fared among Catholics—despite picking a Catholic running mate and taking the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ position on the contraception coverage and same-sex marriage. McCain got 45% of the Catholic vote, but Romney’s only drawing 39% among registered voters. The data—which is, should be noted, from registered, not likely voters—raises questions about whether Catholic voters were swayed by the Bishops’ “Fortnight for Freedom” or by any of the bishops’ worst rhetoric, such as that of the Archbishop of Springfield, Illinois, Thomas John Paprocki, who, as Right Wing Watch reported, said that Democrats support “intrinsic evil” and anyone voting for such a candidate puts their “soul in serious jeopardy.”

And even apart from the presidential campaign and contraception, there are Catholics who are not listening to the Bishops—including on marriage equality. In Maryland, where anti-equality activists are attempting to use a ballot measure to invalidate a marriage equality law passed earlier this year, the Maryland Catholic Conference has worked with other anti-marriage equality groups, helping to lead opposition through the process in the legislature and now the ballot box. But watch this Marylanders for Marriage Equality video of Jenny and Pat Nugent, self-described “cradle Catholics” and active parish members, who tell the story of their youngest of seven children coming out to them. “I want him to have the same sense of security and fidelity in a relationship, where you know there’s always one person you can rely on,” says Jenny. “And I also want for him to be able to say to the world, this is who I love, this is who I’m committed to, this is who is committed to me, that they can do that publicly, like all of our other kids.” Watch:

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Defying Eternal Damnation, Catholics will Vote Democratic (Original Post) rug Sep 2012 OP
Off to the greatest page. sueh Sep 2012 #1
This Vid should be spread far Cha Sep 2012 #2
All I can say is thank goodness these people are better than their church and god. n/t Humanist_Activist Sep 2012 #3
These bishops are acting as if God died and left them in charge meow2u3 Sep 2012 #4
The church's ban on contraception has really went over well too! Zambero Sep 2012 #5
If anything, I think the Bishops have helped us, particularly with women. cbayer Sep 2012 #6
Great news! cleanhippie Sep 2012 #7

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
4. These bishops are acting as if God died and left them in charge
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:49 AM
Sep 2012

Bishops have taken to doing God's job of judging and condemning people to Hell instead of doing God's will.

IMO, if the bishops aren't careful, they're the ones liable to eternal damnation--not people who vote Democratic. Who do those bishops think they are, demanding that Catholics vote Republican or risk their souls?

The bishops are also being hypocrites or even heretics. Last I checked, racism, contempt of the poor, torture, and sexual abuse of children are also "intrinsic evils" always to be opposed, but it seems as if they arbitrarily decided to allow wiggle room for those evils because they're Republican sins.

Zambero

(8,965 posts)
5. The church's ban on contraception has really went over well too!
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:07 AM
Sep 2012

Most Catholics are no longer living in the 1950's, which can't be said for the church hierarchy.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
6. If anything, I think the Bishops have helped us, particularly with women.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:09 AM
Sep 2012

Their rigid patriarchal stance this election season has pissed off a lot of people.

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