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rug

(82,333 posts)
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 03:13 PM Jan 2012

New council to link congregations

12:49 AM, Jan. 4, 2012

This morning, Gov. Jack Markell will create a new nine-member Delaware Council of Faith-Based Partnerships to collaborate on issues of concern to the state's more than 1,000 worship communities.

When Markell signs Executive Order No. 33 at the Carvel State Office Building in Wilmington, he'll be joined by Joshua DuBois, a Pentecostal pastor who directs the White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.

One goal of the new council is to foster communication and coordination on issues such as poverty, crime, violence, homelessness and other social ills, according to the executive order.

Other goals are to pool expertise that will improve access to grants; identify unmet needs and avoid duplication of services; and work with charities, foundations and volunteer associations while promoting community service.

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20120104/NEWS02/201040344/New-council-link-congregations?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Home|s

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New council to link congregations (Original Post) rug Jan 2012 OP
I might approve of this mixing of government and religion. MarkCharles Jan 2012 #1
Sounds like a great project you were involved in. cbayer Jan 2012 #2
I was involved in effective Democratic governance MarkCharles Jan 2012 #3
Sorry. Didn't mean to imply that you were involved in anything but cbayer Jan 2012 #4
Sounds like a good idea. - n/t Jim__ Jan 2012 #5
It's just more privitazation. rrneck Jan 2012 #6
 

MarkCharles

(2,261 posts)
1. I might approve of this mixing of government and religion.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 03:53 PM
Jan 2012

I might.

But since religious social services and other non-profit social service agencies are all in the same business, more or less, why not just have folks gather together regardless of their belief systems or lack thereof?

In Massachusetts, where I once held a consultant role to a Democratic Governor, we convened religious and non-religious groups together along the lines of the issues and challenges and target groups those non-profits were serving, (e.g.immigrants, victims of AIDS, homeless, single parents, etc), and they worked effectively together, without any mention of their faith, or lack thereof. People with an expertise in drug or alcohol addiction, for example, could work together more effectively if they all knew each others particular strengths and weaknesses in addressing those issues, without regard for what they each did on the Sabbath. In that case, Jewish and Lutheran social service groups worked side by side, along with Catholics, who often had a longer history and more expertise in treatment of issues of addiction, yet needed secular clinical as well as social supports for people from all walks of life, more than the Catholic Social Services could muster for non-Catholic victims of addiction. The result: an expanded home shelter and transportation system in communities with few Catholics, but many Jewish and Protestant clients.

In short, why even mention religious affiliations AT ALL if the goal is to "foster communication and coordination on issues such as poverty, crime, violence, homelessness and other social ills"?

 

MarkCharles

(2,261 posts)
3. I was involved in effective Democratic governance
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 07:40 PM
Jan 2012

Not something that had to do with religion, although several folks had sincere religious convictions, many, probably. I was not involved in religion, I was involved in making democracy work more effectively.

No religious affiliations or convictions need be involved in solving problems, and I really wonder why it should ever come up, unless, of course, someone has an agenda related more to religion than to solving problems among American citizens.

Why "convene" religious groups? Just put them to work together.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
4. Sorry. Didn't mean to imply that you were involved in anything but
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 07:45 PM
Jan 2012

a governmental agency. Just meant to tell you that it sounds like it was a good project.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
6. It's just more privitazation.
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 12:23 PM
Jan 2012

The right wing wants to run national defense and law enforcement, the left wants to run social services. Both are corrosive to the proper functioning of government. Also, when the left gets involved in government, Grover Norquist gets a hard on. Liberal churches are playing right into the hands of big business conservatives.

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