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Related: About this forumTracking Religious Trends Takes a Leap of Faith
Updated October 12, 2012, 6:13 p.m. ET
By CARL BIALIK
In the past decade, the number of people asked in surveys about their religious identities, beliefs and practices has risen sharply, resulting in a wealth of new data on how many Americans belong to each of the world's religions, or to none. Those figures helped produce headlines this week about the decline in the Protestant share of the population to below a majority and the rising number of people claiming no religious affiliation at all.
Questions remain, however, about how to count population by religion, and how to define those who have no religion. Different surveys use different question wording and definitions, which, combined with the huge variety of beliefs and practices, complicate researchers' work.
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Among Pew's findings are that atheists and agnostics don't always act like, well, atheists and agnostics. For instance, 14% of atheists and 56% of agnostics say they believe in God or a universal spirit, while 2% of self-identified Christians in the poll say they don't.
"The way people self-identify is very important," said Gregory A. Smith, senior researcher at the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life. "But we also know that identity is not the same thing as belief."
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Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)It only matters how they act or do ................
rug
(82,333 posts)dimbear
(6,271 posts)I've been tempted myself, although I am of an unrelentingly Puritan nature.
xfundy
(5,105 posts)There was a time in America when no one would speak of polictics or religion in polite company. It was part of a genteel past, when everyone realized that pushing their views onto others was, to put it nicely, impolite.
If your crowd hadn't rallied to push religion, and the religion that is politics, which has actually replaced religion among the cancervative minority, to the fore in American discourse, you'd be able to go back to your chair by the fire and take up your knitting again, silently damning everyone you know to hell with each knit and perl, with a silent, self-satisfied prayer or frenzied shout of "GLORY!" in between, and making sure to catch the cat's tail under your chair's rockers as often as possible.
Who cares? Honestly? Yes, younger people have a more open outlook on the world, are questioning everything they've been taught (thank "god" , and are trying to navigate a world in which American jobs have been moved to communist slave labor--even as most of us learned in school that communists were BAD!, yet now we can buy few items not made or sourced by them, the very communists we were told would kill us given the chance.
I do admire your perseverance, in trying to corral the "unchurched" into an arena where you can see them controlled and disciplined by the same constraints you seem to need, but those of us who think for ourselves are necessarily free-range and will tear down any fences that seek to contain us.
rug
(82,333 posts)For one thing, put down your Saturday Evening Post and look at history. Religion and politics has been a part of this country from the very beginning. Of course people talked about it and then acted on their talk.
I would say you're talking to yourself but when you say "your crowd" I see you're vividly imagining something you think is there.
As to "communist slave labor", I can only laugh. Your stereotypes I see are not confined to religion. If you are making some lurching reference to China, well, don't confuse a Mao jacket with an actual political system. It is now out-Baining Bain itself.
Your last paragraph? Ok, sure, sure, whatever you say. I'd hate to upset you in your present state.
mr blur
(7,753 posts)Though if you're 'lucky' you might get a supercilious reply.