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rug

(82,333 posts)
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:16 AM Oct 2012

The Amazing Atheist reveals his lack of humanity again

October 13, 2012 at 9:35 pm PZ Myers

I’m sure you’ve all heard the tragic story of Amanda Todd, the teenage girl who killed herself after prolonged bullying. Normal human beings will read about her and be near tears; she was broken by callous sexual predators, her life made miserable, and she finally gave up on it.

The Amazing Atheist is not a normal human being.

Instead, The Amazing Atheist raged at the fact that this young woman was getting attention when other people have died, too. She was a well-off Western girl with plenty of privileges, so how dare we consider her story particularly tragic? There are so many other people who are worse off than she was!

Well, you know, we have a couple of choices in our lives.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/10/13/the-amazing-atheist-reveals-his-lack-of-humanity-again/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+freethoughtblogs%2Fpharyngula+%28FTB%3A+Pharyngula%29

There are plenty of links to follow the whole sordid story. He deserves every bit of blowback he's getting. Assholes are assholes regardless of what organization, movement or camp they're in.

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longship

(40,416 posts)
2. And PZ takes him to the woodshed.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:41 AM
Oct 2012

As PZ Myers has a tendency to do.

Gotta live that PZ. Minnesota nice, except on his blog where he breathes fire.

onager

(9,356 posts)
5. Yes, the same PZ Myers who yukked it up over another dead woman...
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:56 PM
Oct 2012

Posted on Oct. 12:

Some horrible little man murdered his girlfriend by stuffing a live octopus down her throat, and then claiming it was an accidental death by choking while eating a traditional Korean meal. It’s tragic and terrible, but I notice that no one is mentioning the other victim: the poor cephalopod murdered by mastication.

Hey, Korea: your practice of eating living octopus is cruel!



http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/10/12/blaming-the-victim/

alp227

(32,025 posts)
13. PZ is a marine biologist. Octopi are central to his work.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 03:49 AM
Oct 2012

Which is why he posts stories about cephalopods all the time.

And this blog was not humorous at all! Where did you get that interpretation?

onager

(9,356 posts)
15. I know, been reading Ass. Prof. Myers for years
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 10:01 PM
Oct 2012

From way back, when he was intentionally funny.

If you'd bothered to read the comments to that post by Myers' own fan club, a lot of them thought it was a lousy attempt at humor too. And I very rarely agree with that bunch anymore.

edhopper

(33,580 posts)
3. I guess then it is
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:11 PM
Oct 2012

all right for us to post every "good Christian" asshole who makes a vile comment and infer that that is indicative of Christians.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
7. It would be fair to equivocate this as soon as atheists start to claim that atheism makes one
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 03:08 PM
Oct 2012

Morally superior.

But until that happens...

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
9. I don't see any equivocation (or equivalence) at all.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 06:34 PM
Oct 2012

The guy is an ass and he's been called on it.

The response of tu quoque is rather defensive.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
11. Oh, I'm not excusing his behavior in any way, just the significance of it, which is nothong.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 09:59 PM
Oct 2012

When atheists start proclaiming non-belief as that which makes one morally superior, then instances of atheists being assholes would have importance. But since it's only believers that do that.....

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
8. However insensitively expressed
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 05:11 PM
Oct 2012

his point remains valid. The news media has made itself the (utterly unqualified) arbiter of which lives are more deserving of memorial and which deaths are more deserving of attention, based on standards which are arbitrary at best and fairly disgusting at worst. And people keep buying into it.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
12. I haven't watched the video yet, but...
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:09 AM
Oct 2012

The Amazing Atheist often makes his points in a rather rude manner, but he often has valid points. From what you posted it seems like he is pointing out the fact that the news media is far more likely to cover tragedy involving well off middle-class white children. The vast majority of national news stories involving kidnappings always deal with middle-class white children. I think TJ is trying to point out that the media has a bias here and they do. That doesn't mean the middle-class white child's death is any less tragic, but it does seem to get more coverage. All that being said the Amazing Atheist can be a total dick at times and sometimes I think he is controversial for the sake of being controversial.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
14. so how dare we consider her story particularly tragic?
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 12:42 PM
Oct 2012

So.... how IS her story "particularly tragic?"

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
16. This is a classic example of a conflicting personalities, nothing to do with religion.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 10:10 PM
Oct 2012

People, I have noticed, tend to be either "personalistic" or "universalistic", focusing on tragedy on a concrete personal level or on an abstract collective level, respectively. Each tends to be offended by the other.

Though I must agree with my fellow Minnesotan Dr. Myers that Angry Atheist is an asshole.

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