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Related: About this forumThe Amazing Atheist reveals his lack of humanity again
October 13, 2012 at 9:35 pm PZ Myers
Im sure youve all heard the tragic story of Amanda Todd, the teenage girl who killed herself after prolonged bullying. Normal human beings will read about her and be near tears; she was broken by callous sexual predators, her life made miserable, and she finally gave up on it.
The Amazing Atheist is not a normal human being.
Instead, The Amazing Atheist raged at the fact that this young woman was getting attention when other people have died, too. She was a well-off Western girl with plenty of privileges, so how dare we consider her story particularly tragic? There are so many other people who are worse off than she was!
Well, you know, we have a couple of choices in our lives.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/10/13/the-amazing-atheist-reveals-his-lack-of-humanity-again/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+freethoughtblogs%2Fpharyngula+%28FTB%3A+Pharyngula%29
There are plenty of links to follow the whole sordid story. He deserves every bit of blowback he's getting. Assholes are assholes regardless of what organization, movement or camp they're in.
MineralMan
(146,309 posts)Atheism is no exception.
longship
(40,416 posts)As PZ Myers has a tendency to do.
Gotta live that PZ. Minnesota nice, except on his blog where he breathes fire.
onager
(9,356 posts)Posted on Oct. 12:
Some horrible little man murdered his girlfriend by stuffing a live octopus down her throat, and then claiming it was an accidental death by choking while eating a traditional Korean meal. Its tragic and terrible, but I notice that no one is mentioning the other victim: the poor cephalopod murdered by mastication.
Hey, Korea: your practice of eating living octopus is cruel!
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/10/12/blaming-the-victim/
alp227
(32,025 posts)Which is why he posts stories about cephalopods all the time.
And this blog was not humorous at all! Where did you get that interpretation?
onager
(9,356 posts)From way back, when he was intentionally funny.
If you'd bothered to read the comments to that post by Myers' own fan club, a lot of them thought it was a lousy attempt at humor too. And I very rarely agree with that bunch anymore.
edhopper
(33,580 posts)all right for us to post every "good Christian" asshole who makes a vile comment and infer that that is indicative of Christians.
rug
(82,333 posts)Although I will note it appears to be less so.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Morally superior.
But until that happens...
rug
(82,333 posts)The guy is an ass and he's been called on it.
The response of tu quoque is rather defensive.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)When atheists start proclaiming non-belief as that which makes one morally superior, then instances of atheists being assholes would have importance. But since it's only believers that do that.....
mr blur
(7,753 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)skepticscott
(13,029 posts)his point remains valid. The news media has made itself the (utterly unqualified) arbiter of which lives are more deserving of memorial and which deaths are more deserving of attention, based on standards which are arbitrary at best and fairly disgusting at worst. And people keep buying into it.
white_wolf
(6,238 posts)The Amazing Atheist often makes his points in a rather rude manner, but he often has valid points. From what you posted it seems like he is pointing out the fact that the news media is far more likely to cover tragedy involving well off middle-class white children. The vast majority of national news stories involving kidnappings always deal with middle-class white children. I think TJ is trying to point out that the media has a bias here and they do. That doesn't mean the middle-class white child's death is any less tragic, but it does seem to get more coverage. All that being said the Amazing Atheist can be a total dick at times and sometimes I think he is controversial for the sake of being controversial.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)So.... how IS her story "particularly tragic?"
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)People, I have noticed, tend to be either "personalistic" or "universalistic", focusing on tragedy on a concrete personal level or on an abstract collective level, respectively. Each tends to be offended by the other.
Though I must agree with my fellow Minnesotan Dr. Myers that Angry Atheist is an asshole.