Religion
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(9,356 posts)(I was going to post this, but you beat me to it!)
humblebum
(5,881 posts)by atheistic communists in the 20th century. So, since religion was not a factor in those events, could it be that fanaticism was to blame and not religion?
edhopper
(33,619 posts)she was explicitly shot for violating their religious dogma.
So I don't see the analogy with communist as valid.
But you trot this out every time, so.....
humblebum
(5,881 posts)Was atheistic communism the cause of killing so many intellectuals or was it fanaticism?
Did white people murder so many blacks or was it fanatical white racists?
Yes, there is an analogy to be made here.
Was it an atheist who shot Gabby Giffords or was it a fanatic?
edhopper
(33,619 posts)The Taliban's fanaticism Is religion. It was their religious belief that was the sole reason for their actions.
You might as well said red head communists.
The atheist adjective is superfluous.
humblebum
(5,881 posts)And yes there have been many incidents of atheistic fanaticism, too. You are constantly rationalizing anything to validate your anti-religious blather. To say that religion equates to shooting little girls in the head is beyond ridiculous.
edhopper
(33,619 posts)throughout history, nobody has ever done anything bad because of their religious beliefs.
it is always some amorphous "fanaticism' about something else. Atheism, on the other hand, drives people to commit atrocities.
humblebum
(5,881 posts)It has happened in the name of religion, and in the name of atheism, and in the name of any number of other causes. But to continue the assertion that religion in itself causes little girls to be shot is ridiculous and to insinuate such is to perpetuate such a biased mindset, and to maybe even lead to more fanaticism.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)humblebum
(5,881 posts)The League of Militant Atheists didn't do what they did in the name of Santa Claus.
rug
(82,333 posts)You do know this is a recycled meme. Last used for the Mars landing. Not that Ricky is frequently original.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Seems like a weird standard.
And Ricky is pretty damned funny. And I'm sure he doesn't care that you don't care for him.
rug
(82,333 posts)Did anyone mention anything about caring about Ricky not caring about comments made about Ricky's comments?
Is there some concern I should show?
CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)The fact that he recycled the same idiotic tweet gives us a significant clue to the intellectual depths of Gervais.
_ed_
(1,734 posts)never the other way around...
rug
(82,333 posts)And the name of the group that funded it?
I'd like to put them in touch with a fellow from Nigeria.
_ed_
(1,734 posts)OK...
Mormons believe that Native Americans are descendants of ancient Hebrews. DNA disproves this.
Catholics believe in transubstantiation. Chemical analysis proves that it's just wine and bread.
Should I keep going?
edhopper
(33,619 posts)the Earth was the center of the Universe.
Galileo disproved that.
It also believed that God created all the animals as they are.
Darwin disproved that.
Many believes thought the Shroud of Turan was the burial cloth of Jesus.
Science disproved that.
Please proceed....
rug
(82,333 posts)It doesn't teach that the bread and wine chemically change.
Keep going.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)by the Council of Trent dance team to come up with the "accident" and "substance" bullshit. Aristotle would have laughed them out of the room.
But, yeah, you go ahead an keep going.
rug
(82,333 posts)You cannot design a scientific experiment to disprove a philosophical concept.
QED.
Keep going.
edhopper
(33,619 posts)Catholic Church never said that transubstantiation was real/
Please proceed....
rug
(82,333 posts)Keep going.
edhopper
(33,619 posts)world without end.
Because the church has always taught the same thing throughout it's time.
dimbear
(6,271 posts)Later scientific experiments, such as the discovery of America, put Zachary to the test. This did not deter some folk going to the stake in the interim for that particular heresy.
rug
(82,333 posts)Neither antipodes nor medieval coronations is the competent domain of religion.
onager
(9,356 posts)So it's more like a "bit" or "routine."
Good to see you being influenced by the best, though:
The word meme...was coined by the British evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins in The Selfish Gene (1976).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme
Example of another routine that the comedian often recycled, Lenny Bruce's "Christ & Moses." It also got Bruce arrested for blasphemy. Yes, in the United States. In the late 20th century:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X-J4O-6hANU#t=55s
Henny Youngman was also notorious for stealing shtick.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Last edited Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:07 PM - Edit history (1)
like "our religion has a savior that was born of a virgin, died, and rose again"?
Christianity, the original meme!
rug
(82,333 posts)Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)But if we are going to fault copying, then, again, I'd like to take a look and mock others for copying. Like, for instance, the RCC.
rug
(82,333 posts)Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Keep trying to show you are internet savvy. The fact that you didn't know hotlinking to someone else's account is a very uncool thing to do made it clear that your aren't. And there's nothing wrong with that, but just stop acting like you are.
rug
(82,333 posts)Since you obviously are changing the subject, go object again to that PPR.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Go ahead and try the hotlink to someone's account out on a less controlled Internet site and let me know what happens.
Are you finally giving up the meme statement or do we need to keep going with the fact you don't understand it like you think you do.
rug
(82,333 posts)Go try your coy obliqueness on another site or IRL and tell me what happens.
Pathetic.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Yeah, I wasn't talking about your misunderstanding of a meme.
rug
(82,333 posts)That must still smart.
I repeat, pathetic.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)riffing on another person's joke a meme?
(Hint: it isn't)